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Πολύ δρομο μεχρι να βρεθουν τα ατομα που θα φερουν ποιον ας πουμε?

Δεν ξέρω. Νομίζω πάντως πως το μόνο ίσως θετικό στοιχείο που μπορεί να προκύψει από την περίοδο που διανύουμε είναι η ανάδειξη (νεων) πολιτικών φορέων/δυνάμεων. Ο κύκλος ΠΑΣΟΚ->ΝΔ-ΠΑΣΟΚ είναι φαύλος (αποδεδειγμένο). Μαύρο και στους δύο.
 

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Δεν ξέρω. Νομίζω πάντως πως το μόνο ίσως θετικό στοιχείο που μπορεί να προκύψει από την περίοδο που διανύουμε είναι η ανάδειξη (νεων) πολιτικών φορέων/δυνάμεων. Ο κύκλος ΠΑΣΟΚ->ΝΔ-ΠΑΣΟΚ είναι φαύλος (αποδεδειγμένο). Μαύρο και στους δύο.

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Emerging Markets Emerging Markets

04/11/2011 | Thierry Ogier

The Greek political situation continued to cast a shadow over the G20 summit in Cannes, despite its referendum U-turn

Markets breathed a sigh of relief yesterday following Greece’s double U-turn on its plan to hold a referendum on the bailout package and the country’s membership of the euro.

However the Greek domestic political situation will continue to cast a shadow over the G20 summit in Cannes today, as Greek prime minister George Papandreou faces a no-confidence vote in Athens.

“I cannot say that we are out of the woods – but we will hold firm [to secure Europe],” French president Nicolas Sarkozy said after the euro crisis cast a dark shadow over the Cannes summit.

Sarkozy, who also chairs the G20, said that emergency talks held in Cannes on the eve of the Summit of G20 leaders had been crucial to defuse a crisis that could potentially break up the eurozone and would have far reaching consequences.

He said that the decision of the Greek opposition to support the Brussels agreement was very important, describing Papandreou’s decision to backtrack on the referendum as “a dawning realization” and “a positive electric shock” therapy.

More fundamentally, he said, partners in the eurozone had a duty of solidarity. “There is a red line that must not be crossed. We must defend our heritage,” he said.

He added: “The explosion of the euro would cause the explosion of Europe. “We must send a message of credibility to the whole world.”

Meanwhile, markets were bolstered yesterday both by the new twist in the Greek crisis, and the quarter-point cut in interest rates by the European Central Bank to 1.25%.

Oil rose at a three-month high of $94 a barrel in New York and the euro advanced 0.5% to $1.382 against the dollar. European shares rose strongly, and Wall Street also regained some ground, with the Dow Jones index closing up 1.6%.

But Georges Ugeux, CEO of Galileo financial advisors, a New York-based investment advisory firm, said the market atmosphere was still “foggy”. “The fact [European] political leaders mention the possibility of exit from the eurozone undermines the credibility of the euro,” he said.

“People always used to say that it was irreversible. I am afraid that some European leaders may be playing with fire when they say that. It should not be so explicit.”

Meanwhile, Sarkozy endorsed the measures proposed by the Italian government, which must be submitted to a confidence vote before the Rome Senate next week.

“The issue is not really what is in the package but will this package be implemented,” he told a news conference.

Italy committed itself to balance its budget by 2013, but Italian bonds have come under renewed markets pressure this week as contagion fears continue to blur European economic prospects.

Italian 10-year bond yields rose to fresh euro-era highs yesterday, at one point touching 6.4%, before falling back to 6.18 by the end of the day.
 

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ΠΑΙΡΝΕΙ ψήφο εμπισοτσύνης και μετα.....ΜΗΝ ΕΙΔΑΤΕ ΤΟΝ ΠΑΝΑΗ!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Athens, Greece (CNN) -- Prime Minister George Papandreou faces a crunch confidence vote Friday, after days of political turmoil sparked by his controversial proposal to hold a referendum on an international bailout for his country.

His socialist PASOK party has a tiny majority in parliament and it is unclear whether he will survive the vote, or what might follow if he does.

The political instability in Greece has caused political and financial jitters throughout Europe and beyond, as world leaders meet in Cannes, France, for the G-20 economic summit.
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U.S. President Barack Obama told the summit Friday he was confident that Europe had the capacity to meet the challenge presented by the troubled global economy.

People knew it wouldn't be easy, he said, but what the world was looking for was action.

"Make no mistake, there is more hard work ahead and more difficult changes to make but our European partners have laid a foundation on which to build," he said.

Recent events in Greece have underscored the importance of implementing a Greek economic bailout plan fully and quickly, he said, but the elements were in place to ensure stability -- including a firewall around European debt, the strengthening of European banks, charting a sustainable path for Greece and making structural reforms.

"All of us have an enormous interest in Europe's success and all of us will be affected if Europe is not growing," he said.

Europe's political leaders realized the importance of keeping the euro zone intact and would do what was necessary to protect it, he added.

Among the concerns high on the G-20 agenda was the potential for Greece's woes to spread to major European economies like Italy, whose Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi is struggling to gain support for austerity measures and may also face a confidence vote next week. Borrowing costs for his government continue to rise amid the uncertainty.

European markets turned sour as of lunchtime on Friday, following a slightly stronger opening. U.S. stocks opened slightly down, on the back of a disappointing jobs report, as investors watch to see what the day might bring.

Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos has now told the European Commission that there will be no referendum on the bailout deal agreed to in Brussels last week, his office said Friday.

The move follows heavy international pressure on Papandreou to drop the planned referendum, announced to the surprise of everyone, including his own ministers, at the start of the week.

Lawmakers in Greece will debate the confidence motion for a third day Friday before a vote expected at midnight local time.

A motion of confidence is a procedure by which lawmakers signal to the head of state that the government no longer has the support of parliament and should go. If a government loses a confidence vote, it will typically be dissolved and general elections held, unless the head of state is confident that another individual has enough support to form a government and asks him or her to do so.

Papandreou's own party appeared divided on his fate hours ahead of the vote, with some telling Greek media they hoped he would win the vote but then step down to allow a government of national unity to be formed.

Speculation was rife Thursday that Papandreou might resign, or that a unity government might be formed with a different leader at its head who could find consensus on how to handle the crisis.

The prime minister backed off Thursday from his proposal to hold a referendum, saying it would not be necessary if the opposition were to support the tough austerity measures that accompany it.

Opposition leader Antonis Samaras responded that he would support the bailout but wanted Papandreou to step aside and for early elections to be held.

"We are asking you to resign to give power to people to negotiate new measures," he told the prime minister.

"It's nothing that I can rule out, and I'm not clinging to any chair," Papandreou said about the prospect of giving up his job. "That's the political cost I'm taking on, me personally, for something which I did not cause."

Papandreou said he was not interested in being re-elected, only in saving the country from economic disaster should Greece default on its debts.

"Everything is on the table," Papandreou said. "Well, the government will be. But let's talk about it. Let's debate it. You don't expect -- out of the blue -- for a government to resign. That would be irresponsible." He added, "We cannot at this period of time leave a vacuum in power."

He called on Samaras "to come back to the room and participate in this conversation about forming a government, of a wider support for the good of the country."

Constantine Michalos, head of the Athens Chamber of Commerce, told CNN he believed there would be an agreement as Papandreou -- whose father and grandfather have also held the prime ministerial role -- was "looking for a dignified way out" of the situation.

"I think for the next several weeks there will be serious discussions in order to formulate the transitional government, hopefully a technocratic transitional government, that will take over for a period of at least three to four months in order to ratify and begin to implement the agreement that was reached in Brussels," he said.

Speaking to lawmakers Thursday, Papandreou appeared hurt by criticism of the bailout itself, which was negotiated October 26 and would impose strict austerity measures on Greece, which has already seen angry public protests against cuts.

"We managed to get the biggest-ever package ever given to a country on the planet," he said of the deal, which would wipe out 100 billion euros in Greek debt, half of what it owes. It comes with a promise of 30 billion euros from the public sector to help pay off some of the remaining debts, making the whole deal worth 130 billion euros ($178 billion).

"Please tell me," Papandreou said. "Name one government that has ever brought to Greece such a package."

But the package comes with strings attached that would require Greece to slash government jobs, privatize some businesses and reduce pensions.

Papandreou acknowledged that many Greeks would suffer under the plan, but said: "We have to go through this difficult process in order to come to the other end." He called the bailout "the basis for the next new big leap" and urged Greeks not to be misled but to work together to resolve the matter.

"National unity is the most important tool in order to get out of this crisis," he said, adding that he had asked for a referendum on the bailout "so it can be the decision of every Greek, every Greek family."

Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos appeared to rule out a referendum earlier Thursday, saying: "As the prime minister said, it is clear that we are not going ahead with a referendum."

He said the government needs to show that Greeks support the package.

If the Greeks were to vote against the deal, that could result in their country exiting the euro zone -- the grouping of 17 European nations that use the euro as a common currency -- and wreaking havoc on the markets.

French and German leaders have already warned Greece that a "no" vote would mean Greece has to leave the euro zone, and that their first priority is safeguarding the currency union.

"The euro is the beating heart of Europe," French President Nicolas Sarkozy said Thursday in Cannes. "We cannot allow the euro to break up -- that would be the break-up of Europe."

Saying that there was no other way to solve the problem, he added: "We have said clearly that we want Greece to stay in the euro -- but the precondition of that is that they want to."

Speaking earlier in the day alongside Sarkozy, Obama said: "We spent most of our conversation focused on strengthening the global economic recovery so that we are creating jobs for our people and stabilizing the financial markets around the world.

"The most important aspect of our task over the next two days is to resolve the financial crisis here in Europe."

The bailout was greeted last week with fanfare as a way to keep debt woes in Greece and other European nations from spilling across other borders, threatening the 17 nations united under the euro currency.

CNN's Elinda Labropoulou and Jim Boulden in Athens, Ali Velshi in Cannes, Matthew Chance in Rome, and Laura Smith-Spark in London contributed to this report.
 

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Can Greece leave the eurozone?

CNN Anchor, Nina dos Santos

(CNN) - Have you ever been to an event where you felt out of place?

You toy with the option of going home. Cocoa and slippers suddenly regain their appeal.

Then again, you might get some benefit from staying: you might meet someone interesting – your knight in shining armor.

When you do finally head for the door it turns out to be locked and your only alternative is creeping out of the window (hopefully unnoticed).

That is the situation Greece is facing today.

Backed into a corner by those who have bailed it out, the country is facing the twin evils of unprecedented hardship at home and unbearable pressure from its pay masters.

The pay masters are living it large at the elite G-20 gathering in Cannes while Greece's leader is summoned for emergency talks, like an unwelcome gatecrasher soon to be sent on his way lest his presence cloud the occasion.

Like an ambivalent party guest, Greece's on-again – and now apparently off-again - referendum vote on last week's bailout deal raises the possibility that the country's future could well be outside the eurozone.

Irrespective of the posturing on all sides, some fundamental questions remain unanswered.

Here, I try to break it down with the help of some experts like Charles Proctor, partner at lawyers Edwards Wildman and Michael Hart, director of FX strategy at Roubini Global Economics.

1) Could Greece abandon the single currency?

In short, no.

Proctor says the legal framework governing the European Union only talks about a member state leaving the bloc – not the currency. A scenario that is hard to imagine. Even if Greece were to consider a future beyond EU borders for a few years, getting back into this elite club would be fraught with difficulties later down the line.

2) So, could other eurozone members make Greece leave the eurozone?

Again, negative. This is not a two-way door. No matter what Germany and France may say, Proctor says they cannot force Greece to exit the euro area either. “There is no exit door. Either because Greece wants to go through one or because either member states want to push it through one,” he says. Then again, the EU could revise these treaties.

3) Can Greece go back to the drachma?

Greece abandoned its previous currency, the drachma, when it joined the eurozone. In accordance with treaty 128 on the functioning of the EU, eurozone members like Greece have delegated their right to set their own currency to the eurozone. As a result, Greece is not legally allowed to reintroduce its own currency. Proctor says it has revoked that right.

On CNN this week the Greek Foreign Minister did not specifically deny the country was printing drachma at this stage.  [Editor's note: The Greek Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman, Gregory Delavekouras, has since said via email:  "Greece is not printing drachmas anywhere in the world. Greece is a member of the eurozone and will continue to be so."]

4) How much would the drachma be worth?

Hart has thankfully crunched the numbers so I don't have to but even since he made his original calculations a month ago Greece's situation has become more precarious.

The main benefit Greece would get from leaving the euro and returning to the drachma would be being able to set its own rules on how much of its debt it will pay back.

Using a currency as this kind of tool is risky and often viewed as the preserve of the emerging markets like Argentina, Brazil and Turkey.

The drachma was pegged to the European single currency in 2000 at a value of 340.70 drachmas per one euro. To begin to see the benefits of a euro departure and say zero its current account deficit, Hart says Greece would have to devalue the drachma by 50%. Hart says that because the country is so indebted, the drachma could theoretically weaken 120% in real terms – in other words, its actual buying power would be significantly reduced.

Then again, such figures are only relevant if Greece decides to exit through the backdoor, flouting the legal technicalities.


5) What effects would a change of currency have?

Proctor says if Greece were to abandon the euro it would have to do so "literally overnight." There would be a run on banks across the country as people rush to withdraw their savings in euros before the changeover. If that were the case capital controls would have to be introduced to prevent the banks from collapsing.

We saw this most recently in Argentina when many lost their wealth after the peso was unfixed from the dollar in 2002.

The following list of peak-to-trough devaluations since the mid-90s gives us an idea of what we could be talking about:

- 2002 Argentina: 280 %

- 1999 Brazil: 78 %

- 1998 – 1999 Russia: 330 %

- 1997 – 1998 Indonesia: 660 %

- 1997 – 1998 Thailand: 110 %

- 1994 – 1995 Mexico 115 %

Greece has repeatedly denied it is considering leaving the single currency and until this week open talk of a departure was taboo. Yet the longer it waits, to take a decision, the more it will cost them. Just like that late taxi ride home: the price is always higher, the later you leave – even if the party was a washout.
 

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«Η Ελλάδα δεν τυπώνει δραχμές πουθενά στον κόσμο. Η Ελλάδα είναι μέλος της ευρωζώνης και θα συνεχίσει να είναι».

Αυτή είναι, η απάντηση του Υπουργείου Εξωτερικών στο blog της νεαρής αμερικανίδας δημοσιογράφου του CNN, Nina dos Santos, η οποία… παρερμηνεύοντας τη συνέντευξη του Υπουργού Εξωτερικών Σταύρου Λαμπρίνιδη στο CNN, αφήνει υπονοούμενα για εκτύπωση δραχμών στην Ελλάδα.


«Ο Έλληνας υπουργός εξωτερικών δεν αρνήθηκε κατηγορηματικά ότι σε αυτό το στάδιο η χώρα τυπώνει δραχμές», αναφέρει στο blog της η δημοσιογράφος.

Το υπουργείο Εξωτερικών μάλιστα, ζήτησε από την Nina dos Santos να διαγράψει τα σχόλια της ξεκαθαρίζοντας ότι η χώρα δεν τυπώνει δραχμές.
 

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Xυδαίο video clip εναντίον του Παπανδρέου

Χαμός γίνεται στο ίντερνετ μετά την ανάρτηση από ολλανδικό site, ενός χυδαίου video clip, το οποίο χλευάζει και βρίζει χυδαία τον πρωθυπουργό Γιώργο Παπανδρέου.


 

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τραστυ παιχτη κατι μου λεει οτι αμα δουμε ασπρη μερα καποια στιγμη στο μελλον θα ντυθεις κηδεια θα κλαις στα σκοταδια και θα κανεις ενα μηνα να δεις πατυ στην τηλεοραση απο τη στενοχωρια σου
 

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Xυδαίο video clip εναντίον του Παπανδρέου

Χαμός γίνεται στο ίντερνετ μετά την ανάρτηση από ολλανδικό site, ενός χυδαίου video clip, το οποίο χλευάζει και βρίζει χυδαία τον πρωθυπουργό Γιώργο Παπανδρέου.



ενώ αυτός και οι ενέργειές του δεν είναι χυδαίες!!!!!
 

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τραστυ παιχτη κατι μου λεει οτι αμα δουμε ασπρη μερα καποια στιγμη στο μελλον θα ντυθεις κηδεια θα κλαις στα σκοταδια και θα κανεις ενα μηνα να δεις πατυ στην τηλεοραση απο τη στενοχωρια σου

ο Βουτσάς είναι,δεν το κατάλαβες?
(Αφραγκος Ωνάσης)
 

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ο Βουτσάς είναι,δεν το κατάλαβες?
(Αφραγκος Ωνάσης)

αποκλειεται τυπε. εδω ξερει προεδρους και προεδρους. απλα βαριεται να γραφει τα ονοματα τους και τα κανει κοπυ πειστ απο το γουγλη με τις τελειες μεσα
 

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τραστυ παιχτη κατι μου λεει οτι αμα δουμε ασπρη μερα καποια στιγμη στο μελλον θα ντυθεις κηδεια θα κλαις στα σκοταδια και θα κανεις ενα μηνα να δεις πατυ στην τηλεοραση απο τη στενοχωρια σου

αυτό το κατι σε συμβουλεύει λάθος ....

γεγονός είναι τα πρωτάκουστα παγκοσμίως κατάντια της χώρας ...

τις τελευταίες ημέρες ο Πρόεδρος Ομπάμα αναφέρθηκε 17 φορές στην ελλάδα .....

στην ΜΒ η αναφορα σε ελληνική καταγωγη μονο δυσφορία δημιουργεί .... σε λολγίζουν σαν τον απατεώνα της ευρώπης .... κλέφτη της τσέπης τους ....

 

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αποκλειεται τυπε. εδω ξερει προεδρους και προεδρους. απλα βαριεται να γραφει τα ονοματα τους και τα κανει κοπυ πειστ απο το γουγλη με τις τελειες μεσα


Hello __________,

It would be a pleasure to meet you again.
On 23.03 evening I would be available.
Give me a message as soon as it is sure when you are in Bucharest.

Best regards
Gregor

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γεγονός είναι τα πρωτάκουστα παγκοσμίως κατάντια της χώρας ...
H μονη ΚΑΤΑΝΤΙΑ που βλεπω εγω ειναι αυτη των"ταγων του εθνους"που χτυπανε προσοχες σε οτι του λενε οι"πιστωτες"και τα τσουτσεκια των media και του νετ(σαν και λογου σου)που ΧΕΣΜΕΝΑ(Στραβελακης στο MEGA πχ)επαναλαμβανουν τα"τελεσιγραφα"και οτι αλλο.
 

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Hello __________,

It would be a pleasure to meet you again.
On 23.03 evening I would be available.
Give me a message as soon as it is sure when you are in Bucharest.

Best regards
Gregor

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      FW: Consideration

βίζιτα έκλεισες στη Ρουμανία?
 

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αυτό το κατι σε συμβουλεύει λάθος ....

γεγονός είναι τα πρωτάκουστα παγκοσμίως κατάντια της χώρας ...

τις τελευταίες ημέρες ο Πρόεδρος Ομπάμα αναφέρθηκε 17 φορές στην ελλάδα .....

στην ΜΒ η αναφορα σε ελληνική καταγωγη μονο δυσφορία δημιουργεί .... σε λολγίζουν σαν τον απατεώνα της ευρώπης .... κλέφτη της τσέπης τους ....

Τοσο χαλια ειναι η κατασταση τυπε ? Τι βλεπεις δεν θα σκασουν του χρονου τουριστριες στην Ελλαδα ?
 

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αυτό το κατι σε συμβουλεύει λάθος ....

γεγονός είναι τα πρωτάκουστα παγκοσμίως κατάντια της χώρας ...

τις τελευταίες ημέρες ο Πρόεδρος Ομπάμα αναφέρθηκε 17 φορές στην ελλάδα .....

στην ΜΒ η αναφορα σε ελληνική καταγωγη μονο δυσφορία δημιουργεί .... σε λολγίζουν σαν τον απατεώνα της ευρώπης .... κλέφτη της τσέπης τους ....
Βλαμένε, κλέφτη σε θεωρούν αυτοί που τους παίρνεις τα λεφτά και τα εξαφανίζεις απο την οικονομία τους.
Σιγά να μην πούν τίποτα τα Αγγλάκια απο την στιγμή που όλοι οι κλεφτοκοτάδες πλιατσικολόγοι πάνε και αγοράζουν διαμερίμστα εις τα Λονδίνα.
Άλλοι διαμαρτύρονται.
Πιάσε τώρα την σφουγγαρίστρα ηλίθιε και θα δούμε πότε θα ξαναγίνεις γκαρσόνι...
 

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