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γιατι ρε τυπε τι εχει η καιλη?
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με αντωνακη στην θεση του γαπ και υφυπουργο οικονομιας αστυνομο θεοχαρη να κανει σκοντο στην τροικα στην γενευηγιατι ρε τυπε τι εχει η καιλη?
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Kαταρχήν δεν είναι η " φιλοσοφία" μου αλλά είναι ότι συνέβη τα τελευταία χρόνια. Στο άλλο. Ναι σαφώς και δε φταίει το ευρώ για τη φτώχια και το πα. Δε χρειάζεται να το ξαναπώ . Το ευρώ τώρα τι φταίει ?Δρα αυτή τη στιγμή σαν εμπόδιο στην ανάκαμψη. Μπορεί να σου φαίνεται παράδοξο αλλά δρα ως εμπόδιο. Αυτή τη στιγμή για την ανάκαμψη χρειάζεται ένα " υπομόχλιο" που θα βοηθήσει να ξεκολλήσεις. Δηλαδή ένα φτηνό νόμισμα. Από μόνο του εξυπακούεται πως δε θα είναι αρκετό . Αλλά σε μια μάχη ρίχνεις όλα τα όπλα πυρ ομαδόν ότι έχεις διαθέσιμο. Ένα τόσο σκληρό νόμισμα είναι "άκαμπτο" για τις παρούσες συνθήκες. Δηλαδή " παγώνει" την οικονομία. η οποία είναι ήδη στην κατάψυξη. Ενώ πρέπει να " ανοίξει" και να ζεσταθεί.
Το πε και ο ΓΑΠ ότι ΠΡΕΠΕΙ ΝΑ ΚΑΝΟΥΜΕ ΘΥΣΙΕΣ ΓΙΑ ΝΑ ΔΙΑΤΗΡΗΘΟΥΜΕ ΣΤΟ ΕΥΡΩ! Το όλο διακύβευμα αν δε το χετε καταλάβει δεν είναι ούτε η χρεοκοπία της χώρας ούτε οι επισφάλεις αλλά ΤΟ ΕΥΡΩ! Για να προστατέψουν το νόμισμα καθαυτό οι κυβερνήσεις και της Ελλάδας και των ευρωπαικών χωρών εξουθενώνουν τους λαούς!
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δε γαμιούνται τα μουνόπανα...να βγούμε από το ευρώ και να διεκδικήσουμε τις αποζημιώσεις καριόληδες
Γιατί; Λογική η αντίδραση τους. Στην πουτάνα πουτανιές;
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Ε τύπε για ποιο άλλο λόγο 30 χρόνια το παίζουμε Ευρωπέη και σεβόμαστε τη κάθε Καιλή και τη κάθε Ράπτη το κάθε πούστη ,το κάθε προοδευτικούλη και το πάσης φύσεως ασθενικό μουνόπανο με δημοκρατικές ευαισθησίες?
Γιατι μας πληρώνουν.
Και οι γαμημένοι οι Δυτικοί το ξέρουν αυτό και ξέρουν οτι αμα μας πιέσουν κι άλλο το γυρίζουμε στην Ανατολή και να δούμε τότε τι θα κάνουν χωρις τον ρουφιάνο τους στη περιοχή
τον ρόλο της ελλάδος - χωροφύλακα του ΝΑΤΟ στην περιοχή τον ανέλαβαν Ρουμανία, Βουλγαρια, Κοσοβο, FYROM, Croatia .....
σχεδόν μηδενικό ενδιαφέρον για την ελλάδα εκτός απο διευκολύνσεις σε Αραχθο, Σούδα, και αεροπορικό service El. Venizelo ....
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Καλά. Για αυτό το μόνο αποκούμπι του Ισραήλ είναι η Ελλάδα. Σώθηκε το ΝΑΤΟ να βασιστεί στη... Ρουμανία τη FYROM και την Aλβανία... όλων μαζί ο στρατός ούτε το 1/10 της Ελλάδας φτάνει...
apolyto_arseniko
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γιατι ηταν ποτε χωροφυλακας η ελλαδα τυπε?
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ναι, αλλά και για εμάς θα ήταν μια λογική αντίδραση αφού μας σουτάρουνε να επιδιώξουμε να φάμε μαρούλι άκοπα.
Chevalier Fidèle
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γιατι ηταν ποτε χωροφυλακας η ελλαδα τυπε?
Ναι με σαρδέλες και σφυρίχτρα έβγαινε όταν είχε κίνηση να ρυθμίσει την κυκλοφορία τύπε
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το αξιόμαχο του ελ. στρατεύματος είναι αμφίβολο ....
σημαντικές ελλείψεις σε ανταλλακτικά εφόδια πυρομαχικά και σχετικό εξοπλισμό σημειώνουν οι Νατοικές απόρρητες αναφορές στο Στρατηγείο Βρυξελών ...
παραλληλα έχει δημιουργηθεί το Camp Bondsteel στην Δημοκρατία του Κοσόβου και στην FYROMacedonia που υποστηρίζουν απόλυτα τις ευρύτερες ευρωπαικές και δραστηρίοτητες περιοχής Περσικού κόλπου ...
ο στρατός Ρουμανίας, Βουλγαρίας, Κροατίας εξοπλίζεται και οργανώνεται πάνω σε Νατοικά στανταρτσ και σύντομα θα υποκαταστίσει τον παραπέοντα ελληνικό ...
Στις Βρυξέλες υπάρχει εξαιρετικός προβλήματισμός για την πορεία και το αξιόμαχο της ελλάδος όσν αφορά τα Νατοικά ....
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Βλαμένε, που και που γράφεις και κανένα σωστό.
Τι να σου κάνει η Σούδα....
Πιάσε μια μπύρα βρε ηλίθιε.
Σήμερα δεν έχει τιπ.
Θα καθαρίσεις και την τουαλέτα μετά.
Ηλίθιε.
γιατι ηταν ποτε χωροφυλακας η ελλαδα τυπε?
Ανέκαθεν τύπε. Πήγαμε να γίνουμε υπενωμοτάρχες με το Καραμανλή, αλλα τώρα Δημοτική
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BBC News
The eurozone has been plunged into renewed turmoil by Greece's decision to hold a referendum on the EU's efforts to bail out its stricken economy.
In October, the European Commission, the European Central Bank (ECB) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) said they had reached agreement with Greece on reforms to put the nation back on track.
However, the leaders of Germany and France, as well as the IMF, have now said that Athens will not receive its next tranche of emergency aid until Greece decides whether or not to remain in the eurozone.
This is money from the 110bn-euro ($148bn; £95bn) bailout agreed last summer. Eurozone leaders have subsequently agreed a more comprehensive bailout package, including losses for banks and a larger bailout fund.
The whole point is to prevent what started in Greece spreading to other European economies.
Why is Greece in trouble?
Greece has been living beyond its means since even before it joined the euro, and its rising level of debt has placed a huge strain on the country's economy.
The Greek government borrowed heavily and went on something of a spending spree after it adopted the euro.
Public spending soared and public sector wages practically doubled in the past decade. It has more than 340bn euros of debt - for a country of 11 million people.
However, as the money flowed out of the government's coffers, tax income was hit because of widespread tax evasion.
When the global financial downturn hit, Greece was ill-prepared to cope.
It was given 110bn euros of bailout loans in May 2010 to help it get through the crisis - and then in July 2011, it was earmarked to receive another 109bn euros.
But that still was not considered enough. Another summit was called in October in Brussels to solve the crisis once and for all.
Protesters clash with police in Athens on 15 June There has been much public opposition to the austerity programme
Why did the crisis not end with the Greek bailout?
The aim of the original Greece bailout was to contain the crisis.
That did not happen. Both Portugal and the Irish Republic needed a bailout too because of their debts.
Then Greece needed a second bailout, worth 109bn euros.
In July this year, eurozone leaders proposed a plan that would see private lenders to Greece writing off about 20% of the money they originally lent.
But bond yields continued to rise on Spanish and Italian debt - leading to fears that their huge economies will need to be bailed out too.
The failure of Franco-Belgian lender Dexia also added to woes - French and German banks are large holders of Greek debt.
The eurozone rescue fund - the European Financial Stability Facility - was 440bn euros, nowhere near big enough to deal with that scenario.
And so, in October, the eurozone agreed to expand the EFSF to 1tn euros and got banks to agree to a 50% "haircut" on their Greek holdings.
But then Greece's Prime Minister George Papandreou shocked European leaders by calling a referendum on the bailout package.
That has led the leaders of Germany and France, as well as the IMF, to declare that Athens would not receive its next tranche of emergency aid until the referendum had passed.
What would happen if Greece defaulted?
Strictly speaking, a default occurs when a borrower has broken the terms of a loan or other debt, for example if a borrower misses a payment. The term is also loosely used to mean any situation that makes clear that a borrower can no longer repay its debts in full, such as bankruptcy or a debt restructuring.
A default can have a number of important implications. If a borrower is in default on any one debt, then all of its lenders may be able to demand that the borrower immediately repay them. Lenders may also be required to write off their losses on the loans they have made.
Glossary in full
Europe's banks are big holders of Greek debt, with perhaps $50bn-$60bn outstanding. An "orderly" default could mean a substantial part of this debt being rescheduled so that repayments are pushed back decades. A "disorderly" default could mean much of this debt not being repaid - ever.
Either way, it would be extremely painful for banks and bondholders.
What's more, Greek banks are exposed to the sovereign debts of their country. They would need new capital, and it is likely some would need nationalising. A crisis of confidence could spark a run on the banks as people withdrew their money, making the problem worse.
A Greek exit from the euro is seen by some as inevitable if the country defaulted. The big question would then be, what about other heavily-indebted nations in the eurozone?
It might be a repeat of the collapse of Lehman Brothers, which sparked the credit crunch that pushed Europe and the US into recession.
The eurozone has been plunged into renewed turmoil by Greece's decision to hold a referendum on the EU's efforts to bail out its stricken economy.
In October, the European Commission, the European Central Bank (ECB) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) said they had reached agreement with Greece on reforms to put the nation back on track.
However, the leaders of Germany and France, as well as the IMF, have now said that Athens will not receive its next tranche of emergency aid until Greece decides whether or not to remain in the eurozone.
This is money from the 110bn-euro ($148bn; £95bn) bailout agreed last summer. Eurozone leaders have subsequently agreed a more comprehensive bailout package, including losses for banks and a larger bailout fund.
The whole point is to prevent what started in Greece spreading to other European economies.
Why is Greece in trouble?
Greece has been living beyond its means since even before it joined the euro, and its rising level of debt has placed a huge strain on the country's economy.
The Greek government borrowed heavily and went on something of a spending spree after it adopted the euro.
Public spending soared and public sector wages practically doubled in the past decade. It has more than 340bn euros of debt - for a country of 11 million people.
However, as the money flowed out of the government's coffers, tax income was hit because of widespread tax evasion.
When the global financial downturn hit, Greece was ill-prepared to cope.
It was given 110bn euros of bailout loans in May 2010 to help it get through the crisis - and then in July 2011, it was earmarked to receive another 109bn euros.
But that still was not considered enough. Another summit was called in October in Brussels to solve the crisis once and for all.
Protesters clash with police in Athens on 15 June There has been much public opposition to the austerity programme
Why did the crisis not end with the Greek bailout?
The aim of the original Greece bailout was to contain the crisis.
That did not happen. Both Portugal and the Irish Republic needed a bailout too because of their debts.
Then Greece needed a second bailout, worth 109bn euros.
In July this year, eurozone leaders proposed a plan that would see private lenders to Greece writing off about 20% of the money they originally lent.
But bond yields continued to rise on Spanish and Italian debt - leading to fears that their huge economies will need to be bailed out too.
The failure of Franco-Belgian lender Dexia also added to woes - French and German banks are large holders of Greek debt.
The eurozone rescue fund - the European Financial Stability Facility - was 440bn euros, nowhere near big enough to deal with that scenario.
And so, in October, the eurozone agreed to expand the EFSF to 1tn euros and got banks to agree to a 50% "haircut" on their Greek holdings.
But then Greece's Prime Minister George Papandreou shocked European leaders by calling a referendum on the bailout package.
That has led the leaders of Germany and France, as well as the IMF, to declare that Athens would not receive its next tranche of emergency aid until the referendum had passed.
What would happen if Greece defaulted?
Strictly speaking, a default occurs when a borrower has broken the terms of a loan or other debt, for example if a borrower misses a payment. The term is also loosely used to mean any situation that makes clear that a borrower can no longer repay its debts in full, such as bankruptcy or a debt restructuring.
A default can have a number of important implications. If a borrower is in default on any one debt, then all of its lenders may be able to demand that the borrower immediately repay them. Lenders may also be required to write off their losses on the loans they have made.
Glossary in full
Europe's banks are big holders of Greek debt, with perhaps $50bn-$60bn outstanding. An "orderly" default could mean a substantial part of this debt being rescheduled so that repayments are pushed back decades. A "disorderly" default could mean much of this debt not being repaid - ever.
Either way, it would be extremely painful for banks and bondholders.
What's more, Greek banks are exposed to the sovereign debts of their country. They would need new capital, and it is likely some would need nationalising. A crisis of confidence could spark a run on the banks as people withdrew their money, making the problem worse.
A Greek exit from the euro is seen by some as inevitable if the country defaulted. The big question would then be, what about other heavily-indebted nations in the eurozone?
It might be a repeat of the collapse of Lehman Brothers, which sparked the credit crunch that pushed Europe and the US into recession.
Lastmoican
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τον Σημίτη ξέχασες να αναφέρεις όμως
αλλά ξέχασα
εσ΄προσμένεις σε νέα κατασταση χρηματιστηρίου ίσως;
Στις αντιγραφές καλός είσαι
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Βλακόμετρο η βάση της Σούδας στο λιμένα Χανιων αποτελλεί σημαντικότατη Νατοική βάση και σημείο συγκέντρωσης δυνάμεων 6ου Στόλου ... αλλά σαν ενας ακομα πανηλίθιος ελληνας - χρεωκοπημένος και τιγκα στα απλήρωτα δάνεια που μυαλό και γνώση ...
γι'αυτό σκάσε και σκάβε ....
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λέει πάνω - πανω την προέλευση του άρθρου ....
βασίζομαι σε έγκυρα δεδομένα οχι σαν εσας που οτι σας ερθει κατα νου το δημοσιεύετε ....
trustworth
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και να σημειώσω επίσης ././.
οτι σε όλα καλός είμαι .... το επιβεβαιώνουν φίλοι και εχθροί ....
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εσένα τώρα σ'ενδιαφέρει αν επιβεβαιώθηκες?
είδα ότι κατηγορούσες τους άλλους για τον ίδιο λόγο
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