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Α, καλο κοροιδο εισαι και συ δηλαδη. Αν μου πεις οτι πληρωνες και τις υποχρεωσεις σου θα αιτηθω να καταχωρηθεις στους υποψηφιους για MR MALAKAS 2015, με το συμπαθειο κιολας.....
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Α, καλο κοροιδο εισαι και συ δηλαδη. Αν μου πεις οτι πληρωνες και τις υποχρεωσεις σου θα αιτηθω να καταχωρηθεις στους υποψηφιους για MR MALAKAS 2015, με το συμπαθειο κιολας.....
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Μια χαρά περνούσα τύπε.
Απλα΄ξόδευα λγότερα από όσα έβγαζα.
Δεν χρειάζεσαι cayene ούτε 30 μέρες διακοπές για να περασεις ωραια
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Ανυπαντρος εισαι?
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Καλα, δε θα κακολογησουμε και την αποταμιευση και το συνετο βιο ρε συ Αλεξ, μην παμε στο αλλο ακρο....
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Α, καλο κοροιδο εισαι και συ δηλαδη. Αν μου πεις οτι πληρωνες και τις υποχρεωσεις σου θα αιτηθω να καταχωρηθεις στους υποψηφιους για MR MALAKAS 2015, με το συμπαθειο κιολας.....
Παντα πλήρωνα τις κάρτες μου στην ώρα τους και εννοείται ότι δεν χρωστάω τίποτα στο δημόσιο
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Δυστυχως φιλτατε εμεις θεωρουμαστε οι ΜΑΛΑΚΕΣ της υποθεσης.
Ο τεμπελαρος που ετρωγε, επινε, δανειζοταν, δεν πληρωνε και εβγαζε γουστα με παραπανω απ οσα ειχε, εκανε ζωαρα (με το νου του) μια 10ετια και τα εγραψε και στο νομο Κατσελη. Εμεις οι μπουφοι που πληρωναμε, δουλευαμε σα σκυλοι και συνεχιζουμε, πηραμε ενα καλο και ασφαλες αυτοκινητο ("πολυτελες" για καποιους) και ισως ενα σκαφακι για το γουστο και την καυλα μας, τα οποια ΧΡΥΣΟπληρωσαμε στο δημοσιο, την τρωμε κι απο πισω στην τελικη......... ΚΩΛΟΧΑΝΕΙΟ.
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Αν ΄΄χαρίσουν'' δάνεια τα οποία θα πληρώσουμε εμείς, δεν πληρώνω ποτέ ξανά τράπεζες και εφορία
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Γι αυτο...Φυσικά
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Aν κάποιος έχει οικογένεια ας σφίξει παραπάνω τον κώλο του για να ανταποκριθεί.
Εχω σιχαθεί να ακούω συναδελφους να κλαψομουνιάζουν γιατί δεν μπορούν να κάνουν υπηρεσία Σ/Κ λόγω παιδιών, πρέπει να πάρουν άδεια Αυγουστο, Γιορτές λόγω παιδιών κτλ κτλ.
Στα αρχίδια μας!
Τι σχέση έχει η οικογένεια με τις λοιπές υποχρεώσεις?
Εχω βαρεθεί να ακούω τα μούλικα για άλλοθι
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Δεν παύει οι αναγκες να ειναι διαφορετικες.
Stil520
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Έπρεπε να το έχεις κάνει ήδη.
Είσαι σοβαρός τώρα, η γράφεις μια παπαριά για να περνά η ώρα, αντί να πας να ρίξεις κανένα πούτσο σε κανένα μπουρδέλακι.
Δηλαδή με τις "ανακεφαλαιοποιήσεις" των τραπεζών, τι ακριβώς πληρώνεις;
Μήπως δεν πληρώνεις μη εξυπηρετούμενα δάνεια, και τις τραπεζικές ρεμούλες;
Και μια που το παίζεις και νεοφιλελές,και "καλοπληρωτής" από πότε ο ιδιώτης (τράπεζα) θα πρέπει να κάνει ανακεφαλαιοποίηση και με δημόσιο χρήμα, και με κατασχέσεις;
τα κέρδη του μήπως είναι Δημόσια, και γιατί η ζημιά του πρέπει να είναι;
Τελείως ψεκασμένα είστε;
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www.wsj.com/articles/what-europe-owes-to-greece-1447187759]http://www.wsj.com/articles/what-europe-owes-to-greece-1447187759[/url]
What Europe Owes to Greece
Despite its errors, Athens needs solidarity on the economy and migration.
By YANNIS PALAIOLOGOS
Nov. 10, 2015 3:35 p.m. ET
2 COMMENTS
More refugees crossed the Mediterranean into Europe last month than in all of 2014. The vast majority of them landed in Greece, but many other European Union members have also been affected and are now reconsidering their open-border policies.
Meanwhile, Athens continues to struggle with the terms of its latest bailout, an orphan program unloved by both the government that signed it and the creditors that imposed it. The two greatest achievements of European integration—the free movement of people and the common currency—are now threatened, and in both cases Greece is on the front line of the crisis.
Critics can point to many things that Greece did wrong to bring its economy to its present situation: reckless spending, corruption, a lax attitude to tax collection, the unwillingness of successive governments to go beyond austerity and meaningfully reform the way the public sector and the economy work
In the government of Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras these critics have found the perfect foil. The ruling party, Syriza, is made up of unreconstructed, Marxist-minded leftists who are hostile to the free market, willing to perpetuate the worst practices of the precrisis era, in an alliance with a party of hard-right nationalists and conspiracy theorists. This coalition is again resisting administrative and economic reforms that would both boost growth and help build the government’s capacity to manage crises.
Even on migration, where geography more than policy that has placed Greece in its current difficulty, the critics have plenty of firepower. Greek asylum procedures were chaotic long before the current wave of arrivals. Its inefficient bureaucracy has only made things worse, with constant delays in putting European funding to use. The treatment of asylum seekers in Greece has thus rarely been up to European standards.
But the flaws of Greek policy makers can’t excuse the failures of European governance and the myopia of individual member states.
The eurozone’s resistance to a May 2010 restructuring of Greece’s debt—which creditors opposed so they could punish profligate Athens while at the same time bailing out reckless lenders in France and Germany—ensured that the original program would never succeed. Instead, the bailout imposed a level and pace of spending cuts and tax hikes that caused immense hardship, without tackling the root causes of the Greek disease.
The resulting recession and sense of helplessness contributed to the rise of Syriza. It also has unleashed much darker forces, such as the fascist Golden Dawn that’s now entrenched as the third-largest political party in Greece.
The popular backlash against the failing bailout programs culminated in a 61% “no” vote in July’s referendum. Yet even now there’s little sign creditors are re-evaluating the wisdom of their approach. August’s bailout, the country’s third, remains faithful to the same old recipe of fiscal tightening. This is economically disastrous and politically unsustainable. If the EU persists along this line much longer, then Greece will only become the first in a series of countries to leave a monetary union that has little benefit to offer its weaker members. Portugal may soon follow, and Italy may not be far behind.
This same willingness to let the most vulnerable countries in the EU shoulder the burden of a broken system on their own is also evident in the refugee crisis. Back in 2012, some EU members were already proposing that Greece be excluded from the Schengen Area of borderless travel as a solution to the country’s inability to control its own borders.
Today, many of these same members, despite initially criticizing Hungary, are following Budapest’s example in attempting to build fenceS to cordon off the problem. This leaves Greece, which cannot build a wall across the Aegean, in an impossible position as it accepts more and more migrants who can’t move further into the EU, and effectively destroys the notion of the free movement of people within the EU.
In many ways, Greece is Europe’s weakest link. But if the EU proves unable to tackle the challenges that threaten to sink its two signature accomplishments, it will be because it was unable to offer pan-European solutions to what are essentially pan-European problems, and instead has left its most vulnerable members to fend for themselves.
What Europe Owes to Greece
Despite its errors, Athens needs solidarity on the economy and migration.
By YANNIS PALAIOLOGOS
Nov. 10, 2015 3:35 p.m. ET
2 COMMENTS
More refugees crossed the Mediterranean into Europe last month than in all of 2014. The vast majority of them landed in Greece, but many other European Union members have also been affected and are now reconsidering their open-border policies.
Meanwhile, Athens continues to struggle with the terms of its latest bailout, an orphan program unloved by both the government that signed it and the creditors that imposed it. The two greatest achievements of European integration—the free movement of people and the common currency—are now threatened, and in both cases Greece is on the front line of the crisis.
Critics can point to many things that Greece did wrong to bring its economy to its present situation: reckless spending, corruption, a lax attitude to tax collection, the unwillingness of successive governments to go beyond austerity and meaningfully reform the way the public sector and the economy work
In the government of Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras these critics have found the perfect foil. The ruling party, Syriza, is made up of unreconstructed, Marxist-minded leftists who are hostile to the free market, willing to perpetuate the worst practices of the precrisis era, in an alliance with a party of hard-right nationalists and conspiracy theorists. This coalition is again resisting administrative and economic reforms that would both boost growth and help build the government’s capacity to manage crises.
Even on migration, where geography more than policy that has placed Greece in its current difficulty, the critics have plenty of firepower. Greek asylum procedures were chaotic long before the current wave of arrivals. Its inefficient bureaucracy has only made things worse, with constant delays in putting European funding to use. The treatment of asylum seekers in Greece has thus rarely been up to European standards.
But the flaws of Greek policy makers can’t excuse the failures of European governance and the myopia of individual member states.
The eurozone’s resistance to a May 2010 restructuring of Greece’s debt—which creditors opposed so they could punish profligate Athens while at the same time bailing out reckless lenders in France and Germany—ensured that the original program would never succeed. Instead, the bailout imposed a level and pace of spending cuts and tax hikes that caused immense hardship, without tackling the root causes of the Greek disease.
The resulting recession and sense of helplessness contributed to the rise of Syriza. It also has unleashed much darker forces, such as the fascist Golden Dawn that’s now entrenched as the third-largest political party in Greece.
The popular backlash against the failing bailout programs culminated in a 61% “no” vote in July’s referendum. Yet even now there’s little sign creditors are re-evaluating the wisdom of their approach. August’s bailout, the country’s third, remains faithful to the same old recipe of fiscal tightening. This is economically disastrous and politically unsustainable. If the EU persists along this line much longer, then Greece will only become the first in a series of countries to leave a monetary union that has little benefit to offer its weaker members. Portugal may soon follow, and Italy may not be far behind.
This same willingness to let the most vulnerable countries in the EU shoulder the burden of a broken system on their own is also evident in the refugee crisis. Back in 2012, some EU members were already proposing that Greece be excluded from the Schengen Area of borderless travel as a solution to the country’s inability to control its own borders.
Today, many of these same members, despite initially criticizing Hungary, are following Budapest’s example in attempting to build fenceS to cordon off the problem. This leaves Greece, which cannot build a wall across the Aegean, in an impossible position as it accepts more and more migrants who can’t move further into the EU, and effectively destroys the notion of the free movement of people within the EU.
In many ways, Greece is Europe’s weakest link. But if the EU proves unable to tackle the challenges that threaten to sink its two signature accomplishments, it will be because it was unable to offer pan-European solutions to what are essentially pan-European problems, and instead has left its most vulnerable members to fend for themselves.
maximos555
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Κοιτα, οι αναγκες ειναι οντως διαφορετικες, ειδικα οταν το ζευγαρι ειναι αναγκασμενο να συνδυασει τις διακοπες του. Αλλα οι εποχες ειναι δυσκολες και ολοι πρεπει να σταματησουμε να κοιταμε την παρτη μας, αυτα τελειωσαν.
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μια ερωτηση.τι χρειαζεται καπιος τις πιστωτικες καρτες ,ποτε δεν το καταλαβα,,,η εχει κ πληρωνει η δεν εχει κ χρωσταει εσαει,,η καρτα τι εξυπηρετει??εχω κανει κ με λιγα κ πολλα ,ποτε δεν καταλαβα τι θα με βοηθουσε η καρτα////
maximos555
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μια ερωτηση.τι χρειαζεται καπιος τις πιστωτικες καρτες ,ποτε δεν το καταλαβα,,,η εχει κ πληρωνει η δεν εχει κ χρωσταει εσαει,,η καρτα τι εξυπηρετει??εχω κανει κ με λιγα κ πολλα ,ποτε δεν καταλαβα τι θα με βοηθουσε η καρτα////
Μονο συνετη χρηση και κερδος οι ΑΤΟΚΕΣ δοσεις. ;)
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τις ατοκες οκ,ναι, τοχετε στην ελλαδα,στην ευρωπη γενικα δεν υπαρχουν.ατοκες..νομιζω ειναι ενας τροπος ν αγαμανε τα ψωνισ κ μονο...
