Μουσουλμανική Μειονότητα Θράκης: Τι νομίζετε;

[pornopapos]

βέβαια ο κάθε ιδεολογικά ακραίος αριστεροδεξιός, αυτά που δεν τον συμφέρουν μένουν σενάρια αναπόδεικτα, αυτα που τον συμφέρουν αποτελούν ιστορική βεβαιότητα.....
Υ.Γ.
Η μελέτη της ιστορίας αντικειμενικά οδηγεί στην κατάληξη ότι μόνο η λογική μπορεί να κρίνει εάν ένα σενάριο είναι αλήθεια η όχι.

Ουδείς αμφισβητεί πλέον το γεγονός ότι όλοι οι Μπιν Λάντεν πριν την επίθεση στο WTC είχαν φύγει από την Αμερική την προηγούμενη, όπως και ότι κανένας μα ΚΑΝΕΝΑΣ Εβραικής καταγωγής πολίτης δεν ήταν ανάμεσα στους πλέον των 3 χιλιάδων νεκρών της επίθεσης στους Διδύμους......

ΣΕΝΑΡΙΑ.......................................

το μονο σίγουρο με τις φήμες είναι ότι πάνε από στόμα σε στόμα...

Ας μας πει λοιπόν κάποιος πως αποδεικνύεται το δήθεν "γεγονός" ότι "ουδείς εβραίος σκοτώθηκε στο WTC"; 

http://iospress.gr/mikro2001/mikro20010929.htm

Ενα ψέμα μετατρέπεται σε αντισημιτική υστερία και φτάνει στην ελληνική Βουλή



Η Μαύρη Διεθνής των τερατολόγων

"Επέζησαν οι Ισραηλινοί που δούλευαν στους Πύργους!"
(«Espresso», 24.9.2001)

Μέρες τώρα, παρακολουθούμε άναυδοι τη διαδικασία κατασκευής και τους μηχανισμούς ανακύκλωσης μιας απίστευτης φήμης: οι Εβραίοι, υποστηρίζει η φήμη αυτή (προσοχή: οι Εβραίοι γενικώς και αορίστως), βρίσκονται πίσω από το τρομοκρατικό χτύπημα της 11ης Σεπτεμβρίου. Απόδειξη ότι νεκροί ομόθρησκοί τους δεν περιλαμβάνονται στα χιλιάδες θύματα της επίθεσης, καθώς οι 4.000 Εβραίοι που εργάζονταν στους Δίδυμους Πύργους είχαν εγκαίρως ειδοποιηθεί, ώστε την κρίσιμη ημέρα να οργανώσουν μια ομαδική -και σωτήρια- κοπάνα από τη δουλειά. Σωστά αντιληφθήκατε: 4.000 Αμερικανοεβραίοι κράτησαν το εφτασφράγιστο μυστικό για την πάρτη τους και δεν βρέθηκε ούτε ένας από αυτούς να το καρφώσει στο συνάδελφο του διπλανού γραφείου!

Το γεγονός ότι η συγκεκριμένη φήμη είναι αρκούντως τερατώδης ώστε να προσβάλλει τη νοημοσύνη και του πλέον στρατευμένου αντισημίτη, δεν στάθηκε εμπόδιο ικανό να αναχαιτίσει τη διάδοσή της. Τη φιλοξενούν εφημερίδες, την αναμεταδίδουν κανάλια, την υιοθετούν πολιτικοί, την υποστηρίζουν και κάποιοι πανεπιστημιακοί προσφέροντάς της το όποιο κύρος τους. Εξάλλου έφτασε ήδη στη Βουλή χάρη σε ερώτηση γνωστού κυνηγού (και) εβραϊκών κεφαλών του ελληνικού Κοινοβουλίου. Με την ερώτησή του αυτή, ο Γιώργος Καρατζαφέρης ζητεί από τον υπουργό Εξωτερικών (τον οποίον, σημειωτέον, θεωρεί Εβραίο από τη γιαγιά του, Σοφία Μινέικο) να τον πληροφορήσει κατά πόσον έχει αξιολογήσει τα δημοσιεύματα δύο ισραηλινών εφημερίδων («Χααρέτζ» και «Γεντιότ Αχρονότ») και αν έχει ενημερώσει σχετικά τους Ευρωπαίους ομολόγους του. Τα δημοσιεύματα αυτά υποτίθεται πως «αποκαλύπτουν» ότι οι 4.000 Εβραίοι που εργάζονταν στους Πύργους ειδοποιήθηκαν από τις ισραηλινές μυστικές υπηρεσίες και δεν πήγαν στη δουλειά τους την ημέρα της επίθεσης, καθώς και ότι την ίδια ημέρα αναβλήθηκε η επίσκεψη του Αριέλ Σαρόν στη Νέα Υόρκη.

Η διάχυση μιας φήμης

Το αίτημα του Γ. Καρατζαφέρη προς τον υπουργό Εξωτερικών είναι ασφαλώς γελοίο (γιατί άραγε οι ευρωπαϊκές κυβερνήσεις να περιμένουν να ενημερωθούν από τις ελληνικές αρχές για ισραηλινά δημοσιεύματα;). Αλλού, ωστόσο, πρέπει να αναζητηθεί η σημασία της όλης υπόθεσης, στην οποία η διαδικασία του κοινοβουλευτικού ελέγχου λειτουργεί προσχηματικά. Απλούστατα ο Καρατζαφέρης, στο πλαίσιο της δικής του αντισημιτικής σταυροφορίας, ανέλαβε εργολαβικά τη διακίνηση στην Ελλάδα μιας φήμης που κυκλοφορούσε ήδη σε κάποια αραβικά μέσα ενημέρωσης.

Αξίζει να δούμε πώς: Η «είδηση» πρωτοεμφανίστηκε, όπως φαίνεται, στην εφημερίδα του Κουβέιτ «Αλ Ουατάν» και την πακιστανική «Ναουάι Ουακάτ». Με βεβαιότητα τη βρίσκουμε στις 17 Σεπτεμβρίου στη λιβανέζικη «Μανάρ-TV», που αυτοδιαφημίζεται ως «η πρώτη αραβική τηλεόραση που διεξάγει έναν αποτελεσματικό ψυχολογικό πόλεμο κατά του σιωνιστικού εχθρού». Λίγες ημέρες αργότερα, στην πακιστανική εβδομαδιαία εφημερίδα «Νταρμπ-ι-Μουμίν» (21-27 Σεπτεμβρίου) δημοσιεύεται, ως ανταπόκριση από τη Νέα Υόρκη, η «είδηση» ότι οι αμερικανικές αρχές διερευνούν γιατί δεν περιλαμβάνονται Εβραίοι στους νεκρούς της 11ης Σεπτεμβρίου, παρά το ότι αρχικά, μόλις έγινε το χτύπημα, πολλά μέσα ενημέρωσης, κυρίως ισραηλινά, βιάστηκαν να θρηνήσουν τους 4.000 Εβραίους εργαζόμενους στους Δίδυμους Πύργους. Το δημοσίευμα αποδίδει τις πληροφορίες αυτές σε «αραβικές διπλωματικές πηγές» και προσθέτει ότι τα δυτικά μέσα ενημέρωσης απέκρυψαν στη συνέχεια την απουσία των Εβραίων από τον τόπο του εγκλήματος.

Στο κλίμα αυτό, φαίνεται πως δύο ισραηλινές εφημερίδες, η «Χααρέτζ» και η «Γεντιότ Αχρονότ» (18 και 19 Σεπτεμβρίου αντιστοίχως), αναφέρθηκαν στα παραπάνω δημοσιεύματα για να τα χρησιμοποιήσουν από την πλευρά τους ως τυπικό δείγμα της τρέχουσας αραβικής αντιισραηλινής προπαγάνδας. Το όλο θέμα θα είχε παραμείνει στο πλαίσιο μιας κλασικής αραβοϊσραηλινής κόντρας, αν κάποια από τα κείμενα αυτά δεν φιλοξενούνταν στο Indymedia (Independent Media Center), το γνώριμό μας δικτυακό τόπο που, όπως έχουμε δει και στο παρελθόν, επιδιώκει να λειτουργεί ως ανεξάρτητη και αλογόκριτη ενημερωτική πηγή, δίνοντας στέγη σε αντικρουόμενες -και κάποτε ατεκμηρίωτες- απόψεις για ποικίλα θέματα της επικαιρότητας. Στο Indymedia εντόπισαν, λοιπόν, οι συνεργάτες του Γ. Καρατζαφέρη τα «τεκμήρια» που ο βουλευτής επέδειξε στους τηλεθεατές του ως πειστήρια του «νέου εβραϊκού εγκλήματος», αποκρύπτοντας την ακριβή τους προέλευση, καθώς και τη συζήτηση που τα συνόδευε.

«Δεν θα καλοπεράσετε»

Ως εδώ βρισκόμαστε μπροστά σε μια τυπική διαδικασία παραγωγής και διάχυσης μιας φήμης, η κατασκευή της οποίας, προκειμένου να γίνει πειστική, αποδίδεται στα ίδια τα θύματά της: οι Εβραίοι γνώριζαν για το τρομοκρατικό χτύπημα και, αφού το ομολογούν οι ίδιοι, ποιος έχει λόγο να τους αμφισβητήσει; Η συνέχεια, ωστόσο, αποδεικνύεται ακόμη πιο εξωφρενική. Οταν την περασμένη Τρίτη βλέπει το φως της δημοσιότητας η οργισμένη απάντηση της ισραηλινής πρεσβείας στα σχετικά δημοσιεύματα που είχαν αρχίσει να πληθαίνουν, ο Καρατζαφέρης εμφανίζεται έξαλλος από την καθημερινή εκπομπή του στο «Τηλεάστυ» να κηρύσσει κυριολεκτικά τον πόλεμο στους Ελληνες Εβραίους.

Σε ένα παραλήρημα μίσους, που θα το ζήλευε και ο πιο αφιονισμένος εθνικοσοσιαλιστής, ο βουλευτής δεν αποδίδει απλώς το τρομοκρατικό χτύπημα και όλα τα κακά του κόσμου στους Εβραίους. Απευθυνόμενος άλλοτε στον πρεσβευτή του Ισραήλ στην Αθήνα και άλλοτε σε όλους τους Εβραίους αδιακρίτως, απαιτεί στην ουσία να τους αφαιρεθεί κάθε δυνατότητα αντίρρησης σε όσα για μια ακόμη φορά τούς καταμαρτυρούνται. Κυρίως, όμως -και αυτό ενδιαφέρει για να γίνει αντιληπτή η χρήση της νέας αντισημιτικής φήμης στα ελληνικά συμφραζόμενα- απειλεί ανοιχτά τους Ελληνες πολίτες εβραϊκής καταγωγής, αντιμετωπίζοντάς τους ως εκ προοιμίου πέμπτη φάλαγγα και αποκλείοντάς τους μια και καλή από τον «εθνικό κορμό».

Θα μείνουμε για λίγο στην -ελέω βουλευτικής ασυλίας- αντισημιτική υστερία του Γ. Καρατζαφέρη για να δείξουμε τι πραγματικά διακυβεύεται πίσω από τη δήθεν αθώα ανακύκλωση της φήμης: «Δεν έχουν δικαίωμα να προκαλούν αυτοί οι άνθρωποι, οι οποίοι τον τόπο αυτόν τον έχουν γεμίσει με εγκλήματα», ισχυρίζεται μεταξύ άλλων ο βουλευτής. «Δεν νομιμοποιούνται να μιλάνε στην Ελλάδα οι Εβραίοι και να προκαλούν τον πολιτικό κόσμο. Είναι μεγάλη η αναίδειά τους».

Ακολουθεί η απαραίτητη πλέον αμφισβήτηση του Ολοκαυτώματος: «Ελάτε εδώ, κύριε πρεσβευτά, να μιλήσουμε για το Ολοκαύτωμα, να μιλήσουμε για τους μύθους του Αουσβιτς και του Νταχάου και να μιλήσουμε για τους φούρνους αυτούς, να μιλήσουμε για τους θαλάμους αερίων, να δούμε, λοιπόν, αν οι θάλαμοι αερίων ήταν μονωμένοι για να κρατούν τα αέρια μέσα ή ήταν απλώς ένα τούβλο».

Και παρακάτω: «Εμείς έχουμε μανία εναντίον σας ή όπου πάμε κι όπου σταθούμε σας βρίσκουμε μπροστά; Επειδή έχετε βρει επάνω τους κουφιοκεφαλάκηδες που σας φοβούνται και σας τρέμουνε, επειδή ελέγχετε το σύστημα με τις στοές σας και τα παρακλάδια από κάτω, νομίζετε ότι κι εμείς είμαστε το ίδιο προσκυνημένοι; Οχι, υπάρχουν ακόμα άτομα στην Ελλάδα που δεν φοβούνται. Και είμαστε η πλειοψηφία». Και η επίθεση συνεχίζεται: «Ελάτε να βρούμε στη σύγχρονη πολιτική ιστορία τι ρόλο έχετε παίξει. Ελάτε να δούμε επιτέλους και για τους Ελληνες Εβραίους. [...] Είσαστε περισσότερο από εκεί (σ.σ. εννοεί το Ισραήλ) παρά από εδώ, όσο κι αν εδώ γεννηθήκατε, όσο κι αν εδώ οικονομήσατε, όσο κι αν εδώ φτιαχτήκατε, είσαστε περισσότερο από εκεί. Και μπράβο σας και λεβεντιά σας που αγαπάτε την πατρίδα σας. Αλλά δεν θα μας αφαιρέσετε το δικαίωμα να αγαπάμε εμείς την πατρίδα μας, να υπερασπιζόμαστε εμείς την πατρίδα μας από τον οποιοδήποτε κίνδυνο, και μέσα στους κινδύνους βλέπουμε εσάς, πώς να το κάνουμε; [...] Γιατί θέλετε λουλουδάκια και φιλάκια; Δεν σας έχουμε μπροστά μας; Δεν σας έχουμε από το 1453; [...] Το 1821 [...] πού είχατε χαθεί όλοι εσείς; Γιατί ήσαστε με την πλευρά των Τούρκων, των ισχυρών, για να οικονομάτε, για να τη φτιάχνετε».

Μετά την «ιστορική» τεκμηρίωση, το αναμενόμενο «διά ταύτα»: «Να λοιπόν γιατί δεν σας πάμε. Γιατί ακριβώς ο βίος σας και η πολιτεία σας και η ιστορία σας ήταν πάντα εναντίον της Ελλάδος. [...] Να λοιπόν γιατί δεν σας θέλουμε στα πόδια μας, να γιατί δεν σας έχουμε στην καρδιά μας. Από εκεί και πέρα όμως, όταν φτάνετε σ' αυτή την αναίδεια μέσα στο σπίτι μας (σ.σ. αναφέρεται στη διάψευση της φήμης), να ξέρετε ότι η συμπεριφορά μας δεν θα είναι η γλυκύτερη και ότι δεν θα καλοπεράσετε». Και εν κατακλείδι, για να μην ξεχνιόμαστε, η πιο ρητή δικαιολόγηση του Ολοκαυτώματος: «Οπου κι αν πάτε στην Ιστορία, "διώξτε τους Εβραίους", λένε. Τρελοί ήταν και οι Φαραώ, τρελοί ήταν και οι Πτολεμαίοι; Τρελοί ήταν όλοι οι λαοί του κόσμου, τρελοί είναι όλοι που δεν σας θέλουν στα πόδια τους; Εντάξει, είναι τρελός ο Χίτλερ, αλλά όλη η Ιστορία; Αυτά, λοιπόν, να τα ξέρεις, κύριε Οβραίε πρεσβευτά, και να είσαι λίγο προσεκτικός».

Δεν θα ενδιέφερε ποσώς το απίστευτο παραλήρημα του Γ. Καρατζαφέρη, αν η φήμη, της οποίας υπήρξε ο βασικός μοχλός στην Ελλάδα, δεν εμφανιζόταν περίπου ασχολίαστη σε αρκετές εφημερίδες («Αδ. Τύπος» Μήτση 22/9, «Βραδυνή» 22/9, «Παρόν» 23/9, «Espresso» 24/9 κ.ο.κ.) και σε κάμποσα κανάλια, κι αν δεν τη στήριζαν πολιτικοί, όπως ο Ευγ. Χαϊτίδης της Ν.Δ., και καθηγητές, όπως η Μαρία Τζάνη και ο Γιώργος Χουρμουζιάδης (ΚΚΕ). Ακουμπώντας στο αντισημιτικό υπόστρωμα μιας κοινωνίας που, κατά τα λοιπά, παινεύεται για τα δήθεν ανεξίθρησκα και αντιρατσιστικά αισθήματά της, η σιχαμένη φήμη μοιάζει να βρίσκει πρόσφορο έδαφος σε μια συγκυρία όπου ο «αόρατος κίνδυνος» είναι εύκολο να εντοπιστεί στο πρόσωπο του προαιώνιου αποδιοπομπαίου τράγου. Ετσι, ο παμπάλαιος μηχανισμός αποδεικνύεται ακόμη ικανός να θέσει σε ενέργεια τα φοβικά και ανορθολογικά ανακλαστικά του παρελθόντος. Δυστυχώς, όπως αποδεικνύεται, στο θέμα αυτό ο Γ. Καρατζαφέρης δεν είναι μόνος.
(Ελευθεροτυπία, 29/9/2001)

http://www.iospress.gr

 

[Ιπταμενος_2]

Αντικειμενική ενημέρωσηηηη, ιοςπρες, το απολυτα ανθελληνικο και προδοτικο μέσο, πορωμενο κατα του εθνικου συμφεροντος και εθνικου πολικου χωρου πιο πολυ κι απο γκριζους λυκους.

 

[pornopapos]

Αντικειμενική ενημέρωσηηηη, ιοςπρες, το απολυτα ανθελληνικο και προδοτικο μέσο, πορωμενο κατα του εθνικου συμφεροντος και εθνικου πολικου χωρου πιο πολυ κι απο γκριζους λυκους.

Πτεραρχέ μου καλημέρα

Οι χαρακτηρισμοί που απευθύνεις προς την ομάδα του ΙΟΥ αποδεικνύουν την αλήθεια του συζητούμενου ισχυρισμού (περί εβραίων και WTC);

 

[Ιπταμενος_2]

Πτεραρχέ μου καλημέρα

Οι χαρακτηρισμοί που απευθύνεις προς την ομάδα του ΙΟΥ αποδεικνύουν την αλήθεια του συζητούμενου ισχυρισμού (περί εβραίων και WTC);

Καλημερουδια Πορνοπάπιε, παράληψις μου, αδικαιολόγητος!
Αποδεικνύουν οτι δεν εμπιστευομαι τα λεγομενα του ιου, τη σκεψη του, τη θεληση του διοτι ειναι μεσο πορωμενης προπαγανδας μιας πλευρας.

 

[pornopapos]

Καλημερουδια Πορνοπάπιε, παράληψις μου, αδικαιολόγητος!
Αποδεικνύουν οτι δεν εμπιστευομαι τα λεγομενα του ιου, τη σκεψη του, τη θεληση του διοτι ειναι μεσο πορωμενης προπαγανδας μιας πλευρας.

έχεις αγαπητέ καμμια απόδειξη πρόχειρη περί του ισχυρισμού που συζητάμε;

 

[1personanongrata]

έλα τα καλά αριστέρια να μας πουν για πηγέεεεεεεςςςςςςςςςςςςςςςςςςς....



4000 Jews got sick-leave just before the bombing - strange!!!

You can call it lies, but how many, if any, Israelis didn't show up for work
that day? Where does this number of 4,000 come from?

[size=14pt]On 9/11, the Israelis Ambassador told CNN that 4,000 Israeli nationals,
upon research and partially by inquiry by worried relatives, to be living or
working in or around the WTC, who remained in that early day unreached,
unaccounted for, and a matter of urgent concern to the Israelis.[/size]

As it turned out, by the most updated official Israeli count, [size=24pt]no Israeli
workers at all died at the WTC.[/size] [size=12pt]One Israeli did die there, but he was
visiting, not doing regularly scheduled work. [/size]One other Israeli died during
9/11: Daniel Lewin, killed on one of the planes by thehijackers, by a single
gunshot to the head (!), according to an internal FAA memo report later said
to be in error. But the official story still says he was on that plane, and
killed before the plane crashed, just with a box cutter (to the head?)
instead of a gun.
[size=18pt]
Those were the only 2 Israelis killed anywhere during 9/11, and none of them
worked at the WTC.[/size]

That is a miraculously low figure for Israeli worker deaths at the WTC (zero)
.. Do none work there? Did they all show up there late that day, and
therefore not enter the buildings at all? Did they show up, enter the
buildings, and just coincidentally, all make it out? (Having heard no
miraculous escape stories involving Israelis, probably no to this last one).


Now the largest Israeli employer at the WTC, a firm co-owned by the Israeli
government, which had leased an entire floor on one of the towers, had moved
out about 5 weeks before 9/11, citing money concerns, but incurring a $50,
000 penalty for breaking their lease (and presumably having the balance of
the lease accelerated, due and payable).

Another Israeli owned firm within the vicinity, Odigo, received instant
messages advising them to evacuate the area a couple of hours before the
first plane hit the WTC. The firm's local management was on record by name
confirming this, and that the IP address for that message's origination site
had been recorded and turned over to the FBI, was reported in the Washington
Post's 'Newsbytes' news service.

All of this tends to lend credence to the idea that Israelis got advance
notice, given that one firm reported itself that it received an instant
message to that effect, and that no Israeli workers died there that day.

But did Israel have advance knowledge? THEY THEMSELVES SAY THEY DID, and
warned the US repeatedly, both by themselves, and by having other national
governments pass on the Israeli warnings. Mubarek's very explicit warning,
of 20 some odd hijackers who would attack domestic symbols of national
prestige, was a pass on from the Israelis (who thought their own warnings
were falling on deaf ears).

And how would the Israelis know? As one of the preeminent Jewish national
publications, The Forward, has published, citing Israeli admissions on
background, the so-called 'art students spy ring' of some hundreds of
Israelis was exactly a monitoring operation, with several Israeli teams
moving in mere blocks away from the Atta crew's residences in south Florida,
as occurred on Sheridan Street in Hollywood, Florida.

 

[Ιπταμενος_2]

Για το αν οι Εβραιοι που δουλευεαν στου πύργους γλίτωσαν γιατι δε πήγαν στη δουλειά εκείνη τη μέρα? Οχι, απόδειξη δεν εχω.Βεβαιότητα του τι ακριβως συνέβη δε μπορεί να εχει κανένας και οι πηγες σε τέτοια περιστατικά δεν εχουν καμια εγκυρότητα διότι εξυπηρετούν σκοπιμότητες πολυ υψηλες.

 

[1personanongrata]

Για το αν οι Εβραιοι που δουλευεαν στου πύργους γλίτωσαν γιατι δε πήγαν στη δουλειά εκείνη τη μέρα? Οχι, απόδειξη δεν εχω.Βεβαιότητα του τι ακριβως συνέβη δε μπορεί να εχει κανένας και οι πηγες σε τέτοια περιστατικά δεν εχουν καμια εγκυρότητα διότι εξυπηρετούν σκοπιμότητες πολυ υψηλες.

ορθόν.
όπως και το ότι όλες οι κασέτες από τις κάμερες των κτιρίων γύρω απ το Πεντάγωνο εξαφανίστηκαν σε 5 λεπτά από το ΦΒΙ βάσει μαρτυριών καταστηματαρχών και αυτοπτών.

Τα αεροπλάνα απ το JFK άλλαξαν πορεία προς το Μανχάτταν. Για να στρίψει ένα μπόιγκ κατά 360 μοίρες δε γίνεται όπως και στα αυτοκίνητα.....
Κανείς δεν πήρε χαμπάρι..... Τίποτα δεν ήταν προσχεδιασμένο... Μόνο οι τρομοκράτες ήταν άριστα οργανωμένοι....
Το Αμερικανικό κράτος είναι παρόμοιο με το ελληνικό...
ε ρε κουνια που σας κούναγε............

Στην Αμερική γίνονται trace εγκληματίες εδώ και δεκαετίες μόνο από το on board κινητό λχ του κλεμμένου αυτοκινήτου..... Ο μπάτσος έχει ον μπόρντ κομπιούτερ και ξέρει τα πάντα για την πινακίδα του αυτοκινήτου που καταδιώκεται μέσα σε χρόνο δευτερολέπτων......

Ολα αυτά στην Αμερική του Intelligence Εxcellence.....
Αλλά την αλλαγή πορείας δεν την πήραν γραμμή στο Πεντάγωνο...
Εδώ παρακολουθάνε πυραύλους από την Σιβηρία.... Ολόκληρα μπόινγκ έκαναν πάρτυ στο ΦΙΡ Αμερικής και δεν πήρε γραμμή κανείς μισή ώρα........

 

Επειδη τα αγγλικα μου δεν ειναι και τοσο καλα, οι πηγη που εβαλε ο περσονα τι λεει τελικα, υπηρχαν ή δεν υπηρχαν εβραιοι αναμεσα στους νεκρους της 11/9 ?

 

[1personanongrata]

Επειδη τα αγγλικα μου δεν ειναι και τοσο καλα, οι πηγη που εβαλε ο περσονα τι λεει τελικα, υπηρχαν ή δεν υπηρχαν εβραιοι αναμεσα στους νεκρους της 11/9 ?

μόνο ένας Ισραηλίτης που επισκεπτόναν το WTC. Οι 4 χιλιάδες που εργάζονταν είχαν πάρει αναρρωτική άδεια........

 

μόνο ένας Ισραηλίτης που επισκεπτόναν το WTC. Οι 4 χιλιάδες που εργάζονταν είχαν πάρει αναρρωτική άδεια........

Μετα λεμε οτι εχει αδικο ο Καρατζαφερης και οποιος τα "χωνει" στους εβραιους.......

 

[1personanongrata]

ΣΕΝΑΡΙΑ....
όπως και σενάρια είναι ότι την προηγούμενη της επίθεσης στους Ελληνες της Πόλης όλοι οι Τούρκοι είχαν ενημερωθεί να σηκώσουν Τουρκική Σημαία για να γλιτώσουν την μήνιν του αυθορμήτως ξεσηκωμένου πλήθους της επομένης......

ΣΕΝΑΡΙΑ....

προπαγάνδες.....

ψεύδη....

 

[voltaire45]

Η ΑΠΟΛΥΤΗ ΑΛΗΤΕΙΑ, η απόλυτη χυδαιότητα, η απόλυτη μαλακία, η απόλυτη βλακεία, ο απόλυτος πνευματικός αυνανισμός, η απόλυτη βαρβαρότητα είναι να αμφισβητείς ότι υπήρχαν θύματα Εβραϊκής καταγωγής την 9/11.
Ακόμα μεγαλύτερη αλητεία και χυδαιότητα είναι να διαδίδεις τέτοια ψέμματα.
Λίγο πιό κάτω από την άλλη αλητεία, την άρνηση του ολοκαυτώματος.

Εγώ δεν θα σταθώ σε ένα ελαφρά διαφορετικό ΨΕΜΜΑ ότι 4000 Εβραίοι δεν πήγαν στην δουλειά τους εκείνη την ημέρα.
Το ΨΕΜΜΑ και η προέλευση του έχουν αναλυθεί εδώ, στο site που γίνεται η αποκαθήλωση των θεωριών συνωμοσίας και παραπλάνησης:
www.snopes.com/rumors/israel.asp]Absent without Leave [/url]

Origins:  None of us needs any Terrorism reminders after the events of September 11 about what an ugly place the world can be, but we continue to receive those reminders nonetheless. In this case, there are plenty of anti-Semitic, anti-Zionist, and anti-Israeli groups eager to use the horrors of September 11 as fodder for propaganda to serve their own political ends.

The pieces quote above scarely merit the dignity of a rebuttal. One need only have read newspaper accounts of the thousands of deaths, viewed TV news interviews with grieving families, and scanned the lists of the dead and missing to know that the terrorist attack on New York City claimed the lives of Christians, Jews, and Muslims; agnostics, atheists, and the non-religious alike. No religion was spared, no denomination singled out. Ordinary people of all nationalities suffered. No miracles, human intervention, foreknowledge, coincidence, or vagaries of fate saved more than a few World Trade Center workers from meeting their deaths that day.

Nonetheless, those with something to gain by sowing the seeds of divisiveness would have us believe that Israel had advance warning of the World Trade Center attack, that they managed to notify 4,000 Jews who worked in the two towers, but that they left the U.S. completely unaware of the danger. ("Hello, David Rosenberg? This is the Mossad. Listen, don't go to work on Tuesday. Yeah, another terrorist attack on the U.S. . . . call in sick. And remember, not a word to any of your gentile relatives, friends, or co-workers.") And even though this scoop to top all scoops winged its way all over the Internet, the American press apparently remains completely in the dark about the nefarious scheme. Is it any surprise that this story emanated from Pravda and Al-Manar Television, the pro-Palestinian "Channel of Arabs and Muslims"?

Why would Israel follow such a course of action, betray its staunchest ally, and doom thousands of innocent Americans to death? There are no rational answers to that question, only ugly propagandistic ones. "Israel wants to draw America into a final showdown with its Arab enemies, so they didn't warn us" — the same conspiracy theory that posited our leaders knew about the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor allowed it to happen in order to galvanize public support for a war. Old theory, new clothes. Even darker is the implication that Israel, not content to wait for an attack which would embroil America in a Middle Eastern war, forced the issue by pulling off a monstrous act of terrorism again the USA themselves.


"It is clear to all that the Jews/Israel have most to gain and should be considered as a possible source behind this act," we're told. We hope what's clear to all is that those who author and disseminate this kind of garbage are really the ones with the most to gain.

Should there still be any doubt, news accounts in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks demonstrate that Jews and Israelis did die in the World Trade Towers that day. A 18 September 2001 CNN article reported on one Manhatten synagogue that had lost six of its members in the attacks, five in the towers and one at the Pentagon. A 21 September 2001 ABC News article showed that at (then) last count 130 Israeli nationals were killed in the attack. A 21 September 2001 New York Times article detailed efforts then underway to identify the Jews whose bodies remained beneath the World Trade Center rubble.

 

[1personanongrata]

Μετα λεμε οτι εχει αδικο ο Καρατζαφερης και οποιος τα "χωνει" στους εβραιους.......

κάποιοι λένε ότι οι Εβραίοι έκανα της επίθεση...
Δε μπορώ να πω....
Μπορώ όμως να πω γιατί το γνωρίζω ότι οι Εβραίοι έχουν μεταξύ τους απίστευτους δεσμούς....

Ο ένας ενημερώνει τους άλλους..........και τους βοηθά...
ΕΙΜΑΙ ΣΙΓΟΥΡΟΣ ότι είχε κυκλοφορήσει βρώμα ότι κάτι ετοιμάζεται χοντρό...
Ολοι οι μυημένοι το γνώριζαν.........
Οι Ισραηλίτες έχουν απίστευτες μυστικές υπηρεσίες.
Οι Αμερικανοί δεν πήραν χαμπάρι, δεν άκουσαν, δεν έμαθαν, και μάλιστα την επομένη οι μυστικές τους υπηρεσίες έτρεξαν να κάνουν κατάσχεση βίντεο από διπλανά κτίρια εντός 5λεπτου, αλλά επί μισαώρου 5 μπόινγκ εκινούντο OFf πορείας αλλά κανείς στο Πετάγωνο δεν πήρε πρέφα....

Αυτό είναι ένα σενάριο που θα μπορούσε να έχει λογική για το ελληνικό κράτος αλλά ΠΟΤΕ για το Αμερικανικό και ειδικά γι αυτούς που γνωρίζουν ΤΙ ΟΡΓΑΝΩΣΗ σε επίπεδο INTELLIGENCE, ΙΤ και TELECOM ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ.

 

ρε αντε ριξτε κανα πουτσο να ξελαμπικαρετε λεμε..

 

[1personanongrata]

Η ΑΠΟΛΥΤΗ ΑΛΗΤΕΙΑ, η απόλυτη χυδαιότητα, η απόλυτη μαλακία, η απόλυτη βλακεία, ο απόλυτος πνευματικός αυνανισμός, η απόλυτη βαρβαρότητα είναι να αμφισβητείς ότι υπήρχαν θύματα Εβραϊκής καταγωγής την 9/11.
Ακόμα μεγαλύτερη αλητεία και χυδαιότητα είναι να διαδίδεις τέτοια ψέμματα.
Λίγο πιό κάτω από την άλλη αλητεία, την άρνηση του ολοκαυτώματος.

Εγώ δεν θα σταθώ σε ένα ελαφρά διαφορετικό ΨΕΜΜΑ ότι 4000 Εβραίοι δεν πήγαν στην δουλειά τους εκείνη την ημέρα.
Το ΨΕΜΜΑ και η προέλευση του έχουν αναλυθεί εδώ, στο site που γίνεται η αποκαθήλωση των θεωριών συνωμοσίας και παραπλάνησης:
www.snopes.com/rumors/israel.asp]Absent without Leave [/url]

μπορείς να το αποδειξεις;
μ αρέσει που εσύ που μιλάς για αποδεικτικά ΣΤΟΙΧΕΙΑ ΠΟΥ ΔΕΝ ΕΧΕΙΣ ΣΤΑ ΧΕΡΙΑ ΣΟΥ ΜΙΛΑΣ ΓΙΑ ΑΠΟΛΥΤΗ ΑΛΗΤΕΙΑ......

Ο μη κατέχων την ΑΠΟΛΥΤΗ ΑΛΗΘΕΙΑ ΜΙΛΑ ΓΙΑ ΑΠΟΛΥΤΗ ΑΛΗΤΕΙΑ.
Λαμπρός διάλογος........

Υ.Γ.
πες μας και τι γνώμη σου από αυτά που γνωρίζεις για το εάν υπήρχε γνώση από πριν για την επίθεση....
πες μας και για το που εκπαιδεύτηκαν οι τρομοκράτες.
πες μας πώς είναι δυνατό να ξεφύγει αυτό από τις Μυστικές Υπηρεσίες της Αμερικής.....

 

[voltaire45]

Εξαιρετικό και αναλυτικότατο είναι το άρθρο του Slate:

4,000 Jews, 1 Lie
Tracking an Internet hoax.
By Bryan Curtis
Posted Friday, Oct. 5, 2001, at 8:30 PM ET

It is an article of faith in many Muslim countries that Israel was behind the attack on the World Trade Center, with many citing as their evidence a "news report" that 4,000 Israelis called in sick from their jobs at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11. The allegation has now appeared on scores of Web sites and bulletin boards, has been reproduced in e-mails too numerous to count, and has run as fact in newspapers and news broadcasts in the Middle East. Where did this charge originate, and what path did it take around the world?

First, a question begs: Where did the precise figure of 4,000 Israelis come from? According to the Anti-Defamation League's Web site, on Sept. 11, the Israeli Embassy released a statement expressing concern about the 4,000 Israeli nationals living in New York City—few of whom actually worked in the World Trade Center. At press time, the embassy couldn't confirm this statement.
According to Nexis and the Google search engine, the first mention of Israeli involvement in the attacks came in a Sept. 17 report on Lebanon's Al-Manar Television. The Los Angeles Times reports that the terrorist group Hezbollah has free access to Al-Manar's airwaves, and the station's Web site claims that the station exists to "stage an effective psychological warfare with the Zionist enemy."

The next day at 6:26 a.m., the American Web site Information Times published an article headlined "4,000 Jews Did Not Go To Work At WTC On Sept. 11," and credited it to an "AL-MANAR Television Special Investigative Report." This was not the first time that Information Times had pointed the finger at Israel. The day after the attacks, it warned in an article that the "terrorist government of Israel … cannot be ruled out" as a suspect. Information Times purports to be edited by Syed Adeeb from the eighth floor of the National Press Club at 549 15th St. NW, Washington, DC, 20045. The Press Club says it has no such tenant and repeated messages sent to the e-mail address for Syed Abeed listed on the site bounce back as undeliverable. Directory assistance for Washington, D.C., has no listing for Information Times.

The "4,000 Jews" page is easily forwarded as e-mail, and this may explain the message's rapid dissemination.
The Information Times article makes three charges:
1) Citing the Jordanian newspaper Al-Watan, it alleges that "Israelis remained absent [on Sept. 11] based on hints from the Israeli General Security Apparatus, the Shabak." No media source except Al-Manar claims to have actually seen the editorial in Al-Watan, which the Jordanian Embassy's information bureau describes as an obscure newspaper with a low circulation. Al-Watan's source? Unnamed "Arab diplomatic sources." (A few newspapers called Al-Watan have Web sites—click here, here, and here to visit them—though none seem to be based in Jordan.)
2) Citing the Israeli newspaper Yediot Aharonot, it alleges that Israeli secret police prevented Prime Minister Ariel Sharon from traveling to New York City on Sept. 11.
3) Citing the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, it alleges that the FBI arrested five Israelis who were caught filming the WTC's smoking rubble from their office building roof. (They were being held on the charge of "puzzling behavior.")

No other media outlet that can be searched through Nexis or Google has confirmed the Information Times claims about Sharon and the five Israelis.

Within days, the story appeared in newspapers around the world. A remarkably similar version appeared under the byline of Irina Malenko in Russia's Pravda on Sept. 21. [size=15pt]Pravda removed the article from its Web site a few hours after posting, calling it a "great and foolish mistake,[/size]" but it can still be accessed here. On Sept. 21, the Chicago Tribune reported that a Pakistani paper, which it did not name, had published a similar account. In his Sept. 23 Slate "Dispatch" from Islamabad, Peter Maass reported that a local pro-Taliban politician repeated the 4,000 Jews claim at an anti-U.S. rally. On Sept. 26, Pakistan's Business Recorder printed the story about 4,000 Jews in language almost identical to the original Al-Manar article as a letter to the editor under the name "Hakeem." The same day, the New York Times reported that the allegation had appeared in a newsletter published by an Islamic charity and in lesson plans prepared by Egyptian middle-school teachers. On Oct. 4, the Chicago Tribune spotted the allegation in a Saudi paper, which it did not name. In the Oct. 8 issue of Time, Tim McGirk reported from Pakistan that the story had swept through the country's mosques and Urdu newspapers.

On Sept. 28, USA Today repeated the claim in the context that "Muslims the world over" had tried to pin the attack on Israel. USA Today did not explain the origin of the charge. The Village Voice did the same on Oct. 2. The hoax-debunking site Snopes.com assailed the story, as well. With the Web as a weapon, a lie spreads quickly and easily. With the Web as a corrective tool, the same lie becomes much easier to bat away.

 

[1personanongrata]

ρε αντε ριξτε κανα πουτσο να ξελαμπικαρετε λεμε..

εσύ με τα χοιρινά σου στο χοιροστάσιο και άσε τους επιτελικούς στην οργάνωση.......

 

[1personanongrata]

ααααχαχαχαχαχα
βολταιράκο πες μας και για το ντοκυμαντέρ το όμορφο.....
ΤΗΝ ΑΠΟΛΥΤΗ ΑΛΗΤΕΙΑ ΤΗ΅ΑΜΕΡΙΚΑΝΙΚΗΣ ΔΗΜΟΣΙΟΓΡΑΦΙΑΣ....
αααααχαχαχαχαχα

προπαγάνδα στην αντιπροπαγάνδα.............

Πες μας και για το μπόινγκ που έπεσε στο πεντάγωνο...
αααααχαχαχαχαχαχα
και για την οικογένεια μπιν λάντεν που έφυγε την προηγούμενη από το Αμερικαν Σόιλ.

 

[voltaire45]

Και πάμε στον κατάλογο του State Department με τα ονόματα των ατόμων Εβραϊκής Καταγωγής που σκοτώθηκαν στις 9/11:

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/14-260933.html]The 4,000 Jews Rumor[/url]

Rumor surrounding Sept. 11th proved untrue
Shortly after September 11, 2001, false rumors began to circulate claiming that 4,000 Jews, or 4,000 Israelis, had failed to report for work at the World Trade Center (WTC) on 9/11, supposedly because they had been warned to stay away by Israeli secret services, which were allegedly responsible for the attack. The claim is totally false.

In a videotape broadcast on October 30, 2004, Osama bin Laden unequivocally admitted that he and al Qaeda had planned and directed the September 11 attacks. He stated, "I shall talk to you about the story behind those events [the September 11 attacks] and shall tell you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken ...." He confirmed his direction of the details of operational planning, stating, "for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Atta ... that all operations should be carried out within twenty minutes, before Bush and his administration notice."

Moreover, in a videotape made in November 2001 and captured by U.S. forces in Afghanistan, statements by Osama bin Laden made it clear that he planned the attacks:

"[W]e calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy, who would be killed based on the position of the tower. We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most optimistic of them all. (...Inaudible...) due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. ...We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day."

Vague conspiracy theories blaming Israel began to appear within 24 hours of the attacks. Syria's government-owned Al Thawra newspaper may have been the first newspaper to make the "4,000 Jews" claim. According to U.S. embassy reporting, its September 15th edition falsely claimed "four thousand Jews were absent from their work on the day of the explosions."

The 4,000 figure apparently came from an article entitled "Hundreds of Israelis missing in WTC attack" which appeared in the September 12th internet edition of the Jerusalem Post. It stated, "The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attacks."

Unknown conspiracy theorists apparently seized upon the 4,000 figure, transforming it into the false claim that 4,000 Jews did not report for work at the World Trade Center on September 11.

A total of 2,071 occupants of the World Trade Center died on September 11, among the 2,749 victims of the WTC attacks. According to an article in the October 11, 2001, Wall Street Journal, roughly 1,700 people had listed the religion of a person missing in the WTC attacks; approximately 10% were Jewish. A later article, in the September 5, 2002, Jewish Week, states, "based on the list of names, biographical information compiled by The New York Times, and information from records at the Medical Examiner's Office, there were at least 400 victims either confirmed or strongly believed to be Jewish." This would be approximately 15% of the total victims of the WTC attacks. A partial list of 390 Cantor Fitzgerald employees who died (out of 658 in the company) lists 49 Jewish memorial services, which is between 12% and 13%.

This 10-15% estimate of Jewish fatalities tracks closely with the percentage of Jews living in the New York area. According to the 2002 American Jewish Year Book, 9% of the population of New York State, where 64% of the WTC victims lived, is Jewish. A 2002 study estimated that New York City's population was 12% Jewish. Forty-three percent of the WTC victims lived in New York City. Thus, the number of Jewish victims correlates very closely with the number of Jewish residents in New York. If 4,000 Jews had not reported for work on September 11, the number of Jewish victims would have been much lower than 10-15%.

The following partial list of 76 Jewish World Trade Center victims includes many from companies that were located at or above where the planes hit. These include Cantor Fitzgerald, which lost 658 employees, Marsh & McLellan, which lost 295 employees, Aon Corporation, which lost 176 employees, and others.

Lee Alan Adler, 48, was a computer designer at Cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Adler was a member of the board of trustees of Temple Beth Ahm in Springfield, New Jersey, where memorial services were held for him. He was married to his wife. Alice, for 15 years and had a 12-year old daughter. His daughter wrote in a February 22, 2002 message on an internet memorial site, "Daddy I love you!"

Joshua Aron, 29, was an equities trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. Joshua's father, Barry Aron, says, "Not a minute goes by in a day that I don't think about Josh. ... It's like part of you being ripped out and you can't replace it." Barry talks to his son's widow, Rachel daily. Mr. Aron and Rachel would have celebrated their first wedding anniversary on September 16, 2001. Memorial services were held at the Oceanside Jewish Center in Oceanside, New York.

Michael Edward Asher, 53, was vice president and senior technology architect at Cantor Fitzgerald. On September 10, 2001, he talked with his son Jeremy, 18, about rebuilding an old Jaguar automobile. Mr. Asher was also survived by his wife Dana and a daughter, Rachel, 16. A memorial service was held for him at the Monroe Temple of Liberal Judaism in Monroe, New York.

Debbie S. Bellows, 30, was an executive assistant at Cantor Fitzgerald. She was survived by her husband Sean, who wrote, "Debbie meant the world to me. ... My heart will always be filled with the love and beauty that filled her soul." A memorial service was held for Ms. Bellows at the Westchester Reform Temple in Scarsdale, New York.

Alvin Bergsohn, 48, was an equities trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. From a picture posted on the Internet, it appears that he was survived by a wife and two sons. A service was held for him at the South Baldwin Jewish Center in Baldwin Harbor, New York.

Shimmy D. Biegeleisen, 42, was vice president of Fiduciary Trust International. Susan Townsend, who interviewed for a job at Mr. Biegeleisen's company, described him "a genuinely kind and gentle soul, a man of true integrity." A friend, Joseph Weinberger, said he was "a person with a golden heart, loved everybody, always with a smile." Another described him as "a perfect mix of God-fearing, friendly, and fun." Tony Skutnik said he was "a kind and gentle man, generous and forgiving almost to a fault." He was survived by a wife and five children.

Joshua David Birnbaum, 24, was an assistant bond trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. His best friend, Leehe Matalon, wrote, "Josh's smile always managed to light up the faces of those he surrounded himself with. He had a special charm ...." He was survived by his parents, Sam and Marcel, and a sister, Jill. A memorial service was held for him at the Sephardic Congregation of Long Beach in Long Beach, New York.

Kevin Sanford Cohen, 28, was a computer support person for Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his parents, Barry and Marcia, and a brother Neil. His mother said that when she had asked him why he didn't slow down, he replied, "Mom, I believe in living life to the fullest." A memorial service was held for him at Neve Shalom in Metuchen, New Jersey.

Michael Allen Davidson, 27, was an equity options trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. A co-worker named Jay wrote, "He could have been the nicest, most sensitive person I have ever met. Everyone loves him." He was engaged to be married the following July to Dominique DeNardo. Mr. Davidson was survived by his mother Ellen. A memorial service was held for him at Congregation Beth Israel in Scotch Plains, New Jersey.

Peter Feidelberg, 34, worked for Aon corporation. Mr. Feidelberg was from Montreal, Canada, and worked at Aon with his wife, Meredith Ewart, whom he had married in March 2000. According to the Canadian Jewish News, Mr. Feidelberg attended Jewish Peoples School, ran in the 1998 New York Marathon, enjoyed rugby, mountain biking, skiing and scuba diving, and had backpacked through Europe, Costa Rica, Turkey and other countries.

Steven Mark Fogel, 40, was vice president and assistant general counsel for Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife Kori, a son and a daughter. A memorial service was held for him at Temple Emanuel in Westfield, New York.

Morton H. Frank, 31, was an insurance equities broker at Cantor Fitzgerald. In college, he was a member of the Jewish fraternity Alpha Epsilon Pi. A childhood friend said he had "a fun-loving spirit and a wonderful heart." He had married his wife Jessica 14 months before 9/11.

Arlene Eva Fried, 49, was vice president and assistant general counsel at Cantor Fitzgerald. She met her future husband Ken when she was 15 and he was 17. When the youngest of their three daughters entered kindergarten, Arlene went back to school to study law. Her parents, Nicholas and Ronnie Joseph, were both survivors of Nazi concentration camps; her mother had been at Auschwitz. They wrote, in a October 13, 2003 internet tribute, "As Arlene Joseph Fried's parents, the loss is indescribable; a daughter with indescribable warmth and love toward her whole family and friends -- losing her left an unhealable wound in our hearts." A memorial service was held for her at Temple Beth Shalom in Roslyn, New York.

Douglas B. Gardner, 39, was a vice chairman at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife, Jennifer, and two children. Memorial services were held at the Stephen Weiss Free Synagogue in New York City.

Steven Paul Geller, 52, was an institutional trader for Cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Geller loved to cook with his daughter, Hali, 12. He was also survived by his wife, Debra. A memorial service was held for him at Congregation Rodeph Sholom in New York City.

Marina Romanova Gertsberg, 25, was one of 16 Russian-speaking Jews who perished in the 9/11 attacks, according to World Congress of Russian Jewry. Her family had emigrated from Odessa, Ukraine to the United States when Marina was four so that her father would not have to serve with Soviet forces in Afghanistan. She joined Cantor Fitzgerald as a junior manager one week before September 11. A memorial service for her was held at the Manhattan Beach Jewish Center in Brooklyn, New York.

Jeffrey Grant Goldflam, 48, was senior vice president and chief financial officer at Cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Goldflam was survived by his wife Risa and two children. He was a track and soccer star in high school. Robert Kayton, a college acquaintance, remembered Mr. Goldflam as "easygoing, friendly, and helpful." A memorial service was held for him at Temple Beth Tohar in Melville, New York.

Michelle Herman Goldstein, 31, worked as a broker for Aon Risk Services insurance company. She had married her busband, Edward Goldstein, exactly seven months before 9/11. After the first plane struck the North tower of the World Trade Center, she called her mother, a Hebrew teacher at the Tamarac Jewish Center in Florida, from the 96th floor of the South tower to reassure her that she was all right. Her mother described her as "full of life. She lights up a room when she smiles."

Monica Goldstein, 25, was an accounts specialist at Cantor Fitzgerald. She spent long hours at her older sister's house, caring for her two young nephews and visiting with her sister. Her father said, "Her smile and her laugh were infectious. ... The loss has totally changed our lives. We'll never be the same anymore. ... She was a very, very special person." Ms. Goldstein was engaged to be married in September 2002. A memorial service was held for her at the Congregation B'nai Israel in Bay Terrace, New York.

Steven Goldstein, 35, had started work for Cantor Fitzgerald two weeks before September 11. Working in his basement, he had started and developed an online trading system, which he sold to Cantor Fitzgerald. His wife said his motivation was to make a lot of money and retire so he could spend time with his family. She said he loved nothing more than spending time with his one-year old son Harris and three-year old daughter Hanna. Mr. Goldstein had been a member of the Jewish fraternity Alpha Epsilon Pi when at the University of Michigan.

Marcia Hoffman, 52, was vice president and senior technical architect at Cantor Fitzgerald. A former child-welfare worker, she switched to a career in computers. She was survived by her husband, Jim, and her daughter, Lara. A memorial service was held for her at the Kane Street Synagogue in New York City.

Aaron Horwitz, 24, was a bond broker at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was described as a showman who loved entertaining people, someone who "seized souls, not letting go until he made them merry." A memorial service was held for him at the Brotherhood Synagogue in New York City.

Daniel Ilkanayev, 36, was a senior programming analyst at Cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Ilkanayev was born in Baku, Azerbaijan, in the former Soviet Union. He was one 16 Russian-speaking Jews who perished in the 9/11 attacks, according to World Congress of Russian Jewry.

Brooke Alexandra Jackman, 23, had just started working as an assistant bond trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. On September 10, 2001, she had told her mother she was applying to Columbia University's School of Social Work because "there is more to life than making money." A crowd of 1,000 to 1,500 attended her memorial service at the Jewish Center in Oyster Bay, New York. She had volunteered a community soup kitchen and a thrift shop for cancer patients.

Aaron Jacobs, 27, was a vice president at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was making plans for a honeymoon, perhaps to Africa, with his bride-to-be, Jeannine McAteer. He had backpacked through Europe, taught English in Mexico, and climbed a volcano in Greece. His dream was to retire at an early age and travel. He also taught job skills to welfare recipients. A memorial service for him was held at Temple Emanuel in Newton, Massachusetts.

Steven A. Jacobson, 53, was a transmission engineer working on the 110th floor of World Trade Center's north tower. His job was to keep the WPIX television station on the air, no matter what happened. After working the night shift at the television station, he opened the Town and Village synagogue where he worshipped. Mr. Jacobson was survived by his wife, Deborah, and two daughters, Rachel and Miriam. Family was the most important thing to him; he called his mother every day. Colleagues say he called them on September 11, saying his room was filling with smoke but it was too hot to leave even though he was having trouble breathing.

Shari Ann Kandell, 27, was a support staffer at Cantor Fitzgerald. She loved the theater and was studying for a degree in English in the evenings. Her father said, "the overwhelming and outstanding quality that Shari showed all her life was her total selflessness." Many at her memorial service at Temple Beth Rishon in Wyckoff, New Jersey spoke of her giving priority to the needs of others.

Andrew Keith Kates, 37, was a senior managing director of Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife Emily Terry, two daughters, Hannah, 5, and Lucy, 3, and a son, Henry, 1. His wife said that although Mr. Kates was a serious bike rider, swimmer, and runner, having run the New York Marathon in three hours and 15 minutes, his family came first. Every Saturday morning, the children would crowd into bed with Mr. Kates and his wife. A memorial service for him was held at Congregation Rodeph Sholom in New York City.

Peter Rodney Kellerman, 35, was a vice president and equities trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife Robi. Mr. Kellerman had a doctor's appointment on the morning of September 11, but came to work when the appointment was rescheduled. Friend Jon Bott wrote how he misses Mr. Kellerman's "infectious humor, your wonderful wit and how comfortable and easy you made people feel." A memorial service was held for him at the Park Avenue Synagogue in New York City.

Howard Kestenbaum, 56, was an executive vice president at Aon Corporation. His 24-year old daughter Lauren saw the first plane hit the World Trade Center. Mr. Kestenbaum, who was in the second tower hit, had evacuated his office on the 103rd floor and was at the 78th floor when his tower was struck. Witnesses say he was knocked unconscious by flying debris. Mr. Kestenbaum was always joking and made others laugh. He was an active member of Congregation Beth Ann in Verona, New Jersey, visited the sick and old, and volunteered at a homeless shelter.

Mary Jo Kimelman, 34, had worked for Cantor Fitzgerald for 13 years. Friends and family say she was an extremely loyal, outgoing person who wrote poetry and enjoyed traveling. Her boyfriend, Thierry LeBras, said she had a special talent of listening to people she had just met, getting them to open up about their lives. A memorial service was held for her at Temple Emanu-El in New York City.

Glenn Davis Kirwin, 40, was a senior vice president at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was also an avid cyclist, runner, golfer, and skier, who would go on 80-kilometer bicycle rides. His wife, Joan, says he always found time to play with his sons, Miles, 10, and Troy, 7, even after long workdays. A memorial service was held for him at Westchester Reform Temple in Scarsdale, New York.

Alan Kleinberg, 39, was just days away from transferring to a different Cantor Firzgerald office on September 11. He was survived by his wife, Mindy, a three-year old son, Sam, a seven-year old daughter, Lauren, and a nine-year old son, Jacob. His mother said Mr. Kleinberg limited his outside interests so he could spend more time with his family. A memorial service was held for him at the Jewish Center in East Brunswick, New Jersey.

Karen Joyce Klitzman, 38, worked at Cantor Fitzgerald. She and her twin sister Donna spoke with each other every day on the phone. Karen had taught English for two years in Macao and Beijing, China, and traveled in Siberia and throughout the Middle East. A memorial service was held for her at Stephen Weiss Free Synagogue in New York City.

Nicholas Craig Lassman, 28, was a computer technician for Cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Lassman studied computers after several years of teaching golf in Florida. He also taught himself how to play the guitar and learned Russian and German so he could read books in those languages. He spoke to his parents, Ira and Laura Lassman, almost every day. A memorial service for Mr. Lassman was held at Temple Beth-El in Cloister, New Jersey.

Alan Lederman, 43, started work for Aon Corporation two months before September 11. Just before reporting to work, he climbed Mount Whitney, the tallest mountain in the continental United States. Most of his co-workers left the World Trade Center's south tower, where he worked, but Mr. Lederman stopped to help two women who were paralyzed by panic. A memorial service was held for him at Temple Neve Shalom in Metuchen, New Jersey.

Neil D. Levin, 46, was Executive Director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which runs New York's three major airports, its port facilities, six bridges and tunnels, and is landlord of the World Trade Center complex. Mr. Levin was at a breakfast meeting at the Windows on the World restaurant atop the north tower when it was hit on September 11. Mr. Levin's wife, Christine Ferer, called him "the love of my life, the most kind and generous person," and someone who became a "super-Dad" to Ms. Ferer's two daughters from a previous marriage. A memorial service for Mr. Levin was held at the Temple Emanu-El in New York City. His family set up a scholarship fund in his name for children of Port Authority employees killed on September 11.

Steven Barry Lillianthal, 38, was a mortgage bond broker for Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife Adina, 4-year old twins, Emma and Gabriel, and a three-month old son, Sam. A memorial service was held for Mr. Lillianthal at Temple B'nai Abraham in Livingston, New Jersey.

Stuart T. Meltzer, 32, was an energy broker at Cantor Fitzgerald. He had two young sons; the eldest, Jacob, was four years old when he died. His brother, Larry, said he talked with Stuart at least five days a day, often discussing sports. A memorial service for Mr. Meltzer was held at Temple Emeth in Brookline, Massachusetts.

Nancy Morgenstern, 32, was an administrative assistant at Cantor Fitzgerald. She was an Orthodox Jew whose passions were cycling and skiing. She would bring kosher food and the pots and pans needed to stay kosher on cycling racing trips. In a website dedicated to her memory, her mother wrote, "Nancy, I miss you more than mere words can express. Not only were you my daughter, but you were also my best friend." A co-worker described Nancy as "one of the most thoughtful, disciplined, funny, crazy, independent women I ever knew." Fifty-eight friends wrote tributes to her on her memorial website.

Laurence M. Polatsch, 32, was a partner in equities sales at Cantor Fitzgerald. A prankster, Mr. Polatsch donned a tuxedo and crashed the 2000 wedding of celebrities Catherine Zeta-Jones and Michael Douglas. He ate with actor Jack Nicholson before security guards asked him to leave. Mr. Polatsch's mother said he once flew back from college to present her with flowers on her birthday. Recently, Mr. Polatsch had resumed a relationship with childhood sweetheart Marni Wasserman, and they were expected to marry. Guttermann Funeral Home in Woodbury, New York confirmed that Mr. Polatsch was Jewish.

Faina Rapaport, 45, was a computer programmer working as a consultant to March & McLellan. In 1994, she and her family emigrated from Moscow, Russia to New York. At the time of her death, her son Alex was 25 and her daughter, Elena, 19. Elena said, "I know my mother is still happy about coming to America. She accomplished things that she never would have been able to do in Russia."

Joshua Reiss, 23, was a bond trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. An enterprising young man, Joshua began delivering newspapers at age 10, worked in the family business before attending college, and worked full-time as a waiter while also being a full-time student with a double major at college. More than 1500 people attended his memorial service at Adath Israel Synagogue in Lawrenceville, New Jersey. On August 27, 2002, his mother wrote on the internet, "We miss you and still want you to come home. I will always have a void in my soul."

Brooke David Rosenbaum, 31, was supervisor in the overseas division of Cantor Fitzgerald. He was sick on September 10, but went to work the next day because, according to a friend, he felt that without him, "the whole place would fall apart." He was survived by his mother, Dorothy. A memorial service was held for him at the Jewish Center in Rego Park, New York.

Sheryl Lynn Rosenbaum, 33, was an accountant and partner at Cantor Fitzgerald. Her father described her as the "glue" of their family. She was survived by her husband, Mark, and two children, aged 3 months and 17 months. A memorial service was held for her at Temple Har Shalom in Warren, New Jersey.

Lloyd Daniel Rosenberg, 31, was a bond trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife Glenna and three daughters, Samantha, 5, Kaylee, 3, and Alyssa, 1. His wife said that "Lloyd's passion was being a ‘daddy.' His girls were his pride and joy. I will forever miss the Saturday mornings when I would sneak downstairs and watch him reading them a book or playing ‘horsie.'" A memorial service was held for him at Temple Shalom in Aberdeen, New Jersey.

Mark Louis Rosenberg, 26, was a computer programmer for Marsh & McLellan. He attended Marsha Stern Talmudical Academy in New York and Yeshiva University for a short time. Mr. Rosenberg met his wife, Jennifer, at a Jewish youth event. She said, "He was a great people person. He got along with everybody. He had a great smile and a great sense of humor."

Andrew Ira Rosenblum, 45, was a broker at Cantor Fitzgerald. He married his wife, Jill, at Temple Hillel in North Woodmere, New Jersey, and their sons Jordan and Kyle were 14 and 11, respectively, when their father died. Mr. Rosenblum's friend, Steve Cohen, said, "Andy was the kind of guy that had many circles of friends and many dear friends within each circle."

Joshua M. Rosenblum, 28, was an assistant trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was only four days away from marrying colleague Gina Hawryluk on September 11. Ms. Hawryluk stayed home from work that day to plan their wedding. Mr. Rosenblum and co-workers smashed out windows with computers on the 104th floor to let smoke escape. A memorial service was held for him at Temple Beth El in Cedarhurst, New York.

Joshua Rosenthal, 44, was a senior vice president at Fiduciary Trust. He was an avid reader, mountain hiker, and sailor. A friend described Mr. Rosenthal as "a wonderfully warm and witty person who was loved and admired by those who knew him." A memorial service was held for him at Birmingham Temple in Farmington Hills, Michigan.

Richard Rosenthal, 50, was vice president of finance at Cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Rosenthal was treasurer of the Jewish Center in Fair Lawn, New Jersey and also treasurer of the Dysautonomia Foundation. His son Evan, 18 years old when Mr. Rosenthal died, suffers from dysautonomia, a disorder of the nervous system that confines him to a wheelchair. Evan has needed a feeding tube to eat since he was 2. Friends say Mr. Rosenthal "was always with [Evan]." His younger son Seth, 15 years old when Mr. Rosenthal died, said, following September 11, "I'm going to keep calling him on the cell phone until he answers."

Michael Craig Rothberg, 39, was a managing director for Cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Rothberg was an avid skier, boater, and jogger. Described as "modest and unassuming" and extremely loyal to his co-workers, Mr. Rothberg raised money for multiple sclerosis in a bike-a-thon and for a friend who had cancer. A memorial service was held for him at the Temple Sholom in Greenwich, Connecticut.

Ronald J. Ruben, 36, was a vice president of equity trading at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods. Mr. Ruben, who was unmarried, "was Uncle Ronnie to 100 kids," said his sister, Leslie Dillon. When he received his first holiday bonus, he spent it all at a toy store, delivering gifts to children at a hospital near his home. Mr. Ruben's father, Peter, died of cancer in 1998 and his mother, Marjorie, died in 1996, also from cancer. To honor them, Mr. Ruben had their initials, M and P, tattooed over his heart. A memorial service was held for him at Temple Israel in Ridgewood, New Jersey.

Jason Elazar Sabbag, 26, was a portfolio manager at Fiduciary Trust. He was engaged to be married to Sarah Hare when he died. A memorial service was held for him at Temple Sholom in Greenwich, Connecticut, at which friends recalled his "warm demeanor, his playful sense of humor, his extraordinary talent in sports, academics, and business, and, most of all, his love for his family and very large circle of friends."

Eric Sand, 36, was an equity trader at cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Sand, a talented musician who had once pursued a career in music, had more recently played guitar for a special audience -- his young son, Aaron, who was 18 months old when Mr. Sand died. Mr. Sand's wife, Michelle, said he would rush home from work to spend as much time as possible with his son. A memorial service was held for Mr. Sand at Congregation B'nai Yisrael in Armonk, New York.

Scott Schertzer, 28, worked in the human resources department of Cantor Fitzgerald. On September 10, he felt terrible because he had to give layoff notices to a number of co-workers, but this saved their lives. Mr. Schertzer was an excellent soccer and baseball player who could bench press 102 kilograms, even though he weighed only 70 kilograms. A memorial service was held for him at Congregation B'nai Ahavath Shalom in Union, New Jersey. On December 5, 2001, his mother, father and sister posted this note on an internet memorial site: "We can never say ‘Good-bye.' You will always be with us. We love you and will always love you."

Ian Schneider, 45, was a senior managing director for Cantor Fitzgerald. His lifelong friend Howie Kessler said, "This guy loved life. No one danced harder at a party or shouted louder at a ball game." His wife Cheryl said that when he arrived home, his three children Rachel, 11, Jake, 9, and Sophie, 7, fought for the right to jump first into his arms. Almost 2000 people attended Mr. Schneider's memorial service at Temple Sharey Teflio-Israel in South Orange, New Jersey. Many were families of the children he coached on soccer, softball, and baseball teams, a chore he undertook so he could spend more time with his children.

John Burkhart Schwartz, 40, was a bond broker for Cantor Fitzgerald. A memorial service was held for him at Temple Emanu-El in New York City.

Jason Sekzer, 31, was a vice president at Cantor Fitzgerald. His father, Will Sekzer, who is active in a fraternal society of Jewish New York policemen, described his son as "handsome, smart, humble, and polite." Mr. Sekzer had married Nastasha Makshanov eight months before he died. On September 10, the photographer called to say that their album of wedding photographs was ready. A memorial service was held for him at East Midwood Jewish Center in Brooklyn, New York.

Hagay Shefi, 34, was the co-founder and chief executive of GoldTier Technologies, a software company. Mr. Shefi had lived in the United States for eight years, after emigrating from Israel, and was close to becoming a U.S. citizen. He was in the Windows on the World restaurant atop the World Trade Center to make a business presentation when it was struck. On September 16, 2001, his body was found intact in the rubble. He was survived by his wife Sigal, also from Israel, a five-year old son and a three-year old daughter.

Mark Shulman, 47, was a disaster inspector, fire prevention and risk consultant for March & McLellan. He was survived by his wife, Lori, and daughters Melissa, 17, and Jamie, 12. "His family always came first," his mother Evelyn said. "He did everything for his family. I lost a treasure." A memorial service was held for Mr. Shulman at Temple Shaari Emeth in Manalapan, New Jersey.

Allan Abraham Shwartzstein, 37, was a managing director and partner at Cantor Fitzgerald. "He was about the most considerate person I knew," longtime friend Mark Madoff said. One thousand people attended the memorial service for him at Temple Beth El in Chappaqua, New York. He was survived by his wife, Amy, a five-year old daughter, Jessica, and a four-year old son, Matthew.

Arthur Simon, 57, was a vice president and equities trader at Fred Alger Management company. He and his son, Kenneth Alan Simon, both died in the World Trade Center. The elder Mr. Simon worked on the 93rd floor; the younger on the 104th. One of Mr. Simon's greatest loves was dancing. He was survived by his wife, Susan, a son, Todd, and two daughters, Mandy and Jennifer. A memorial service was held for him and his son at Temple Beth El in Spring Valley, New Jersey.

Kenneth Alan Simon, 34, was an equities trader for Cantor Fitzgerald. He and his wife, Karen, had adopted a daughter, Maya, who was 10 months old when he died. "You should have seen his face when he looked into her big brown eyes for the first time," his wife said. "He just melted." The Simons had plans to adopt more children. Mr. Simon called his wife after the plane hit to say that he was going to look for his father, Arthur Simon, who worked 11 stories below him. A memorial service was held for both father and son at Temple Beth El in Spring Valley, New Jersey.

William E. Spitz, 49, was a government bonds broker at Cantor Fitzgerald. He had a degree in elementary education. A memorial service was held for him at Oceanside Jewish Center in Oceanside, New Jersey.

Eric A. Stahlman, 43, was a broker for Cantor Fitzgerald. He joined the company about 10 weeks before September 11. He was survived by his wife, Blanca, who is from Ecuador, a seven-year old daughter, Allison, and a four-year old son, Jacob. Long friendships and close family ties were the things he cherished most, family members said. A memorial service was held for him at Temple Beth El in Papchoque, New York.

Alexander Robbins Steinman, 32, was a vice president in equities sales for Cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Steinman had attended the wedding in Italy of lifelong friend Richard Diamond on the weekend before September 11. He then rushed home to get back to work, which he loved. "Alex had an incredible sense of humor and he got as much out of life as anybody possibly could," Mr. Diamond said. He said Mr. Steinman had been "the life of the party" at his wedding in Italy. A memorial service was held for Mr. Steinman at Temple Israel in Staten Island, New York.

Kenneth W. Van Auken, 47, was a bond trader at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife Lorie, and two children, Matthew and Sarah. His wife says Mr. Van Auken was her "rock," the loving spirit in her life, and someone who was always willing to interrupt what he was doing to have some fun with his children. He was also a skilled carpenter, building a deck, bookcases, and other projects around his home. A memorial service was held for him at Temple B'nai Shalom in East Brunswick, New Jersey.

Steven Jay Weinberg, 41, was an accounting manager for Baseline Financial Services. He was survived by his wife Laurie and three children, Lindsay, 12, Samuel, 8, and Jason, 6. He went to all his children's sports events and volunteered at the Parents-Teachers Association. A memorial service for Mr. Weinberg was held at the Nanuet Hebrew Center.

Simon Weiser, 65, was a power-distribution engineer for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. A Jew born in Kiev, Ukraine in 1936, he arrived in New York in 1978. He was survived by his wife, a son, and three ganndchildren. He was planning to retire in 2002.

David Thomas Weiss, 50, was vice president and deputy general counsel for Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife Marcia and daughter Gina. He was described as a "very private man with a kind, sweet and generous heart and ... above all else ... limitless devotion to this family." A memorial service was held for him at the Brotherhood Synagogue in New York City.

Michael Wittenstein, 34, was a bond broker at Cantor Fitzgerald. He was scheduled to marry his fiancée, Carrie Bernstein, on October 20, 2001. His uncle, Mark Hershkowitz, said he had thought many times after the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993 about buying Michael a parachute, and wishes he had. "Michael was one of those people who always had a smile, always seemed happy at whatever he was doing," relative Warren Treuhaft wrote. As in the Jewish tradition, Mr. Wittenstein was buried with some of his possessions.

Marc Scott Zeplin, 33, was an equities trader for Cantor Fitzgerald. He was survived by his wife, Debra, and two sons, Ryan, 3, and Ethan, 10 months old. Mr. Zeplin once dreamed of becoming a professional sportscaster, having broadcast hockey games at the University of Michigan. His friends formed the Marc S. Zeplin Foundation, which helps children who lost a parent or loved one on September 11. A memorial service for Mr. Zeplin was held at the Jewish Community Center in Harrisson, New York.

Charles A. Zion, 54, was a senior vice president at Cantor Fitzgerald. Mr. Zion was survived by his wife, Carole, and his 16-year old son, Zachary. "He was a great guy and a great husband," his wife said. A memorial service for Mr. Zion, who was the son of a rabbi, was held at the Greenwich Reformed Synagogue in Greenwich, Connecticut.

Andrew Steven Zucker, 27, was a lawyer with Harris Beach LLP, which had offices in the World Trade Center's south tower, which was the second one hit. Mr. Zucker, a former volunteer fireman, stayed around the 78th floor, where the second plane hit, to help others evacuate. He was survived by his wife Erica, who was pregnant with their first child when he died. Mr. Zucker was a member of the Jewish fraternity Alpha Epsilon Pi.

Igor Zukelman, 29, worked with computers at Fiduciary Trust Company, on the 97th floor of the north tower, which was hit first. Mr. Zukelman was an immigrant from the Ukraine, arriving in the United States in 1992, and was survived by his three-year old son. According to the World Congress of Russian Jewry, Mr. Zukleman was one of 16 Russian-speaking Jews killed in the September 11 attacks.